Who has the right to say what is and what isn't Wing Chun?

You are just a negative old guy who never see sun but all rainy days.

Stick and stones may break my bones. :stuck_out_tongue:

Sunny here today in SYD, btw.

Hahahaha. Great!

[QUOTE=anerlich;1238908]Stick and stones may break my bones. :stuck_out_tongue:

Sunny here today in SYD, btw.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=anerlich;1238907]Jerry actually put out a half decent WC video. Unlike Hendrik.[/QUOTE]

Agreed, i quite like what i saw.

[QUOTE=Hendrik;1238902]Another wcner wanna bee. Sorry to disappoint you on the reality.[/QUOTE]

Bwahahaah… oh lord you make me laugh

Wannabe?
Like you?
Sitting there in your room indulging in martial masturbation…

But then again, youre probably scare to leave your house as the FBI might be watching you!!

Bwahahahahahahaah!!!

[QUOTE=Hendrik;1238906]You are just a negative old guy who never see sun but all rainy days.[/QUOTE]

Ouch!
That must have hurt Andrew

What is or isn’t vt should be what is bad vt and what is awesome vt ? Easy to check. Bad vt chases hands in set piece tests. Bad vt doesn’t have a grasp of llhs lsjc in physical fighting exchanges, iow there are drills that will show errors in delivery of correct or incorrect ideas and lines. There are easy ways to test ones reactions to certain stimulus. There are specific vt set ups to catch " humans " and their unconditioned responses. I am not talking about pushing and shoving in slt stances either. Lin sil di da ( simultaneously striking and defending with ONE arm and not Bil sao ; ) ) is a specific method of striking in vt, either you have it, awesome, or you don’t, bad , simple.
Ving Tsun, awesome !
: )

[QUOTE=Hendrik;1238900]You don’t care doesn’t mean others don’t care.

Created your own martial art , call it anything you like, don’t call it Wck.

Btw, you don’t even practice Wck. Jerry and many others does. So, please not speak for others what you don’t know.[/QUOTE]

No one in their right mind cares what you say. I am sure you have followers so do the Twin Tower conspiracy guys.

I practice wing chun. You talk nonsense. I can tell from what you say that you have little skill in the art. That is why you do talking videos and not action videos because you cannot perform the actions. You did not even know the most fundamental skill in wing chun or in sparring. The funniest thing though is how anyone who disagrees with you is in your mind not doing wing chun because of course unskilled Hendrik knows the real wing chun and people who actually practice the art do not.

I hope you keep posting your ideas and videos because they give me hearty belly laughs and the world always can use more laughter.

I hope you keep posting your ideas and videos because they give me hearty belly laughs and the world always can use more laughter.

But wait! Didn’t you just say on the “light sparring video” thread that Hendrik’s ideas there were simply common WCK mechanics and no big deal? That gives you a “hearty belly laugh”? :confused:

I have no followers and no need to have one.

Btw. Agree or disagree with me doesn’t make doing or not doing Wck .
But if you don’t do Wck then you don’t know Wck.

[QUOTE=tc101;1238931]No one in their right mind cares what you say. I am sure you have followers so do the Twin Tower conspiracy guys.

I practice wing chun. You talk nonsense. I can tell from what you say that you have little skill in the art. That is why you do talking videos and not action videos because you cannot perform the actions. You did not even know the most fundamental skill in wing chun or in sparring. The funniest thing though is how anyone who disagrees with you is in your mind not doing wing chun because of course unskilled Hendrik knows the real wing chun and people who actually practice the art do not.

I hope you keep posting your ideas and videos because they give me hearty belly laughs and the world always can use more laughter.[/QUOTE]

I would like to see the two most popular Kungfu styles, Wing Chun and Shaolin Do join forces to create an even more popular Shaolin WingChun Do. A crowd pleaser that could combine the Southern Boxing skills with the Wushu longfist/kicks & other stuffs of SD. :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=PalmStriker;1238951]I would like to see the two most popular Kungfu styles, Wing Chun and Shaolin Do join forces to create an even more popular Shaolin WingChun Do. A crowd pleaser that could combine the Southern Boxing skills with the Wushu longfist/kicks & other stuffs of SD. :)[/QUOTE]

A contradiction, like opposing magnets. ; )

[QUOTE=PalmStriker;1238951]I would like to see the two most popular Kungfu styles, Wing Chun and Shaolin Do join forces to create an even more popular Shaolin WingChun Do. A crowd pleaser that could combine the Southern Boxing skills with the Wushu longfist/kicks & other stuffs of SD. :)[/QUOTE]

Nah!!

[QUOTE=k gledhill;1238929]What is or isn’t vt should be what is bad vt and what is awesome vt ? Easy to check. Bad vt chases hands in set piece tests. Bad vt doesn’t have a grasp of llhs lsjc in physical fighting exchanges, iow there are drills that will show errors in delivery of correct or incorrect ideas and lines. There are easy ways to test ones reactions to certain stimulus. There are specific vt set ups to catch " humans " and their unconditioned responses. I am not talking about pushing and shoving in slt stances either. Lin sil di da ( simultaneously striking and defending with ONE arm and not Bil sao ; ) ) is a specific method of striking in vt, either you have it, awesome, or you don’t, bad , simple.
Ving Tsun, awesome !
: )[/QUOTE]
Kevin, remember I once asked to post a clip that you liked of someone doing Wing Chun outside of PB’s camp? Did you forget or is it that you feel only PB’s clips are any good?

[QUOTE=PalmStriker;1238951]I would like to see the two most popular Kungfu styles, Wing Chun and Shaolin Do join forces to create an even more popular Shaolin WingChun Do. A crowd pleaser that could combine the Southern Boxing skills with the Wushu longfist/kicks & other stuffs of SD. :)[/QUOTE]

I would second this motion but only if the official uniform consists of pink tutus and tiaras.

Life evolves. I hope most people are different to how they were 20 years ago!

Martial arts are no different but there has to be a limit to what you pass off as wing chun. If it is heavily mixed with boxing, mantis, karate etc then don’t claim to be the oringial, pure of true wing chun.

Paul
www.moifa.co.uk

[QUOTE=Phil Redmond;1238973]Kevin, remember I once asked to post a clip that you liked of someone doing Wing Chun outside of PB’s camp? Did you forget or is it that you feel only PB’s clips are any good?[/QUOTE]

http://youtu.be/bTJ3p__IaOc
( I know you like the music ; ) )

http://youtu.be/0YnEm1zaUyE
( of course )

http://youtu.be/8AIAStBcP04
( cham Kim man )

http://youtu.be/lFTnWelknXM
( Chu Hok yin ) the guy on the right could kill you with one punch !

http://youtu.be/guWUo8qS53U
( WZP )

There’s more …

[QUOTE=KPM;1238939]I hope you keep posting your ideas and videos because they give me hearty belly laughs and the world always can use more laughter.

But wait! Didn’t you just say on the “light sparring video” thread that Hendrik’s ideas there were simply common WCK mechanics and no big deal? That gives you a “hearty belly laugh”? :confused:[/QUOTE]

The ideas that make me laugh are not the common wing chun strategies and mechanics but how he over complicates them and dresses them up in pretentious terminology and uses it to draw unfounded and unwarranted conclusions to support his real wing agenda.

K Gledhill was right the real question is not is it or is it not wing chun but is it good or bad wing chun.

[QUOTE=Hendrik;1238945]I have no followers and no need to have one.

Btw. Agree or disagree with me doesn’t make doing or not doing Wck .
But if you don’t do Wck then you don’t know Wck.[/QUOTE]

I actually agree with you. If you are not doing wing chun you can’t know it. You are not doing it you only talk talk talk about it. You cannot even do it on your numerous videos just more and more empty talk. Your videos are coffee time with Hendrik. When people ask to come see you do the things you talk talk talk about you freak out and threaten to call the FBI. Of course you do not want anyone to see your lack of skills since this will expose you as the fraud you are. You do not even recognize the most basic and fundamental skill in wing chun. You sir are a poser. You pose as some expert but it is all hot air. You do not have a grasp of even the most basic things.

You keep talk about solid short…etc. but face it, you don’t even know the different between a body type power generation which used by boxing and force line type which uses by Wck.

How can one uses a boxing type of power generation is doing Wck?

K Gledhill has post a post on lat sau jek choong, that shows he knows Wck. But you just a mma or boxing guy pretend to be wcner. You don’t have to believe me. But make my day, explains the lat sau jek choong to K Gledhill and see you know what are you talking about. Go ahead. Explain how to do lat sau Jee choong and K Gledhill be the judge on do you know what you are talking about solid short to center line of Wck, the lat sau jek choong.

[QUOTE=tc101;1238998]The ideas that make me laugh are not the common wing chun strategies and mechanics but how he over complicates them and dresses them up in pretentious terminology and uses it to draw unfounded and unwarranted conclusions to support his real wing agenda.

K Gledhill was right the real question is not is it or is it not wing chun but is it good or bad wing chun.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Grumblegeezer;1238838]Certain individuals continue to post over and over again about what is and what isn’t Wing Chun. It get’s pretty tiresome. What gives them, or anybody else, the right to say if my kung fu is WCK or not? Really! I mean if someone does crappy WCK diluted with other styles… OK say that. But as long as it has some connection to WCK, what you call your art is your own darned business.

When I started training WC in the late 70s, all WC was Ip man WC (as far as any of us knew). So, if we saw something that wasn’t of Ip Man lineage maybe we would have said it wasn’t real WC. Well now we know better. There are many lineages and even within lineages, so many variations.

Now of course, not all are WC systems equally effective. And separate from that issue, not all are equally “pure”. Some blend in other systems …pak mei, spm, 18 lo han, long fist, grappling and so forth. If they blend in too much outside stuff, maybe in the interest of accuracy they really should call themselves by another name, like Bruce Lee’s JKD. But that’s their business.

Honestly, the way some here carry on about WC “DNA” it almost reminds me of a racial purity thing! Purebred or mutt, I’ll take what works. Like I said if you think your WC is better (Hi Kevin!) good for you. If you adapt your WC for sport fighting in the ring, OK. That’s your right. And however it turns out, if you still call it WC, I may critique it, but you can call it WC/WT/VT or whatever the heck you want.

–Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]

No one can make that call.
WHat can be stated is what is good or bad WC.
How?
If you can beat a guy that is trying to rip your face off and skull hump you, then yes, you have good WC because you used it for what it was created for.
If you have been doing WC for years and get your butt kicked when you finally fight some guy that KNOWS how to fight, then no, your WC is not good.