White Tiger Forum

hi, this is a new white tiger forum I just found. Any info on the style would be most helpful. And is there anyone in the Chicagoland area that teaches it?

Thank you so much for all your help.

http://gmdoowai.forumup.org/forum-1-gmdoowai.html

And can anyone direct me to any sites about GM Doo? I read some speculative stuff on some odd websites, but I’d like to know more before I jump to conclusions. I just read a cool article in Inside Kung-Fu Magazine (I hope I don’t get in trouble for mentioning it).

why don’t you just go watch his videos on youtube and decide for yourself what you think of that.

[QUOTE=KungfuFlyer;729279]hi, this is a new white tiger forum I just found. Any info on the style would be most helpful. And is there anyone in the Chicagoland area that teaches it?

Thank you so much for all your help.

http://gmdoowai.forumup.org/forum-1-gmdoowai.html

And can anyone direct me to any sites about GM Doo? I read some speculative stuff on some odd websites, but I’d like to know more before I jump to conclusions. I just read a cool article in Inside Kung-Fu Magazine (I hope I don’t get in trouble for mentioning it).[/QUOTE]

This guy is promoting a fraudulent unauthorized white tiger gung fu forum and he should be banned from this forum. He and his supporters are a disgrace to themselves and all in the martial arts community.

IRONMAN ( geeze, can’t you post anywhere without using boldtype?)

I thought you were an attorney? If the forum is a copyright infringement then close it down…

-David

what the hell is this guy talking about? :}

lol. yay!

grabs popcorn and a lawnchair

:rolleyes:

Fraud is fraud. But I guess that is not important to some here.

who’s the fraud?

eats a big mouthful of popcorn

Read my post above again.

AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH, look who’s back! Doo’s Ironman! Hey, did you bring your buddy Garry with you this time! OH, no…that’s right, he was banned. :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

I clicked that link to the forum you are saying is promoting a fraud and it’s your forum Ironman. Or at least, someone named Ironman started it.

i’m lost here now. lol.

keeps eating popcorn and getting waffle ass from his lawnchair

David, you better get some wet-naps as well…this could get messy :eek:

That person is not me, my friend.

[QUOTE=Ironman;729351]That person is not me, my friend.[/QUOTE]

Riiiiiiiiiiiight. It’s just your ‘other’ personality. Is this the mean and nasty Ironman or ignorant Ironman? Hmmm, we’ll just have to wait and see.

David, these guys were all over here a month or so ago, starting trouble because they didn’t like anyone giving the opinion of the Grand High Exaulted Mystic Ruler of the Martial Arts - Doo Wai on his youtube clips. Why put the **** things up in the first place if you don’t want to hear people ****e? Anyway, they have been having conversations between them and themselves, claiming that they are Jim Lacey, a bunch of other people and even ME! Real wack-jobs. They insult themselves, under a different name, and then they go off on the person they are pretending to be. They are quite Psychotic. Look into it. Read their ****e, it’s sick.

Sick? hummmm. What you just said sounds sick.

[QUOTE=Ironman;729357]Sick? hummmm. What you just said sounds sick.[/QUOTE]

Okay, I just got forwarded the links for their other forums, let people decide for themselves, they don’t need me to tell them what you guys are all about!

http://doowai.forumup.org/forum-1-doowai.html

http://doowaibfp.forumup.org/forum-1-doowaibfp.html

I went on the second forum right after they started trouble over here, and after about a week, I decided I’d rather hit myself in the balls with a ballpiin hammer, than hang out on there and argue with them! But, as I read it now, most of the earlier stuff was deleted and still them are starting with me, Dave Ross, Jim Lacey, a bunch of guys in Canada, etc. I am actually speechless as I read it until I get to the part where they are talking about my mother (who has passed away) and it’s this guy Ironman, who we have posting right here. W T F? is wrong with him/them???

Sick f*cking individuals.

David Jamieson,
My daughter makes popcorn with Italian herbs, and spices similar to a good garlic bread. It’s very good, and considering the fact that this show may last some time, you might need some variety with your pop corn munching. Here, try some!

So um Ironman, munch munch whats the deal with all this White Tiger sillyness. Munch munch How come so many guys here don’t like you?

“Dave, can you pass the garlic & herb butter please?”

Well, now those clowns have shut down guest posting on their boards, and then put up a poll about Chan Tai San video clip. Well, not only can non-users not see the link to the CTS video clip, but only 3 ( at most) people can talk about it.

Hey Harout - isn’t it a little late for you over in Beruit? Maybe it’s early in the morning - I don’t know. But you still haven’t given me your address so I can send you that 1-time use video camera so you can post your coconut break video already!

I am the one who contacted the Canadien Pak Mei group. I’ll repost what was told to me later - I’m at work and don’t have access to my computer with the emails.

I’ll post a link to the essay this group wrote concerning “White Something-Or-Other” HERE. The gentleman I exchanged emails with was quite sure about his claims - there is an open invitation for Lee Yi - I mean GM Doo Wai :o - to visit the Vancouver school I believe.

Not only are they saying Chan Tai San was a fraud, they are also claiming the Canadien Pak Mei group are frauds as well…

Like I asked them on their forum ( before it was completely deleted) why does controversy follow them EVERYWHERE they pop up? SouthernFist, Bullshido, here over the past 6 years, Wongkiewkit.com - it always is the same. But they never fully answer any questions - IRONMAN ends up calling me a moron, “Dr.” Harout backpeddaling out of his coconut break video promise ( apparently NO mail or packages can get to Beruit. And the good Doctor cant find a video camera in the whole country of Lebanon), or some other ‘Guests’ threatening me ( Garry) telling me to watch my back.

But - alas - unless they come here now, we can’t communicate with them since they locked down their forums…

-David

Okay Harout - this will be the only time I answer your post from your board here. I have no reason to register there - I posted fine with my same screen name ( CLFLPStudent) as a guest. You guys are the admins over there, check the IP’s of my posts and tell me I am the one posting all that crap… I post from 2 IP’s tops - my home and my work. You do realize you can check that dont you?

Anyway - if you want to talk post here. I have no intention of joining your site.

BTW - why even bother with the polls? Who is responding to them besides you and IRONMAN?

-David

Well, I am finally home from work.

Here is the response I got from Pakmei.net back on November 24, 2006, a Maraika Doucet replied to my questions regarding the “White Something or other” article.
This is his first reply to my questions about GM Doo Wai:

“Anyone with the proper lineage through credible teachers does not have to defend themselves. If someone is questioned regularly about their background in martial arts then more than likely there is a good reason. If you ask a question and get attacked then perhaps they have no answer lol Try the southern kung fu forums. Go to the kung fu magazine forum and check out the southern kung fu threads. On the first or second page there is a heated debate between the lama pai guys and doo wai fongs people. They cannot give a straight answer to any question. The consensus in the kung fu world is doo wai made it up and has about three months training in pak mei. You could also check bullshido and do a search on him and the style no one has heard of in Asia.”

Then this second email on November 25 2006.His first sentence is a reply to my asking if it’s OK to re-print his email to me: ( emphasis in the original)

“If you want to be called a few names lol. Doo wai has an outstanding invitation to come to Vancouver. There are a lot of people that want to meet him lol. Doo Wai’s people thrive on what little attention they get. You are really wasting your energy dealing with these guys. As far as his students go it’s hard to get out of the deep hole they have dug for themselves. His teacher of three months was woo wai quan. Wilkie told him he was too busy with his studies. Do wai found yip gi sum who was in vancouver teaching for a year. Yip gi sum threw him out for many reasons after a brief time. He has never been an indoor student with anyone. Anyone reading anything from him or his students and their grandiose claims without a shred of evidence could understand why he was asked to leave. Wilkies response to all of this is that he cannot understand why anyone would study or believe in an art with no history. Yip gi sum was just in Vancouver. He visited my teacher and they became close. I visit wilkie whenever I am in vancouver if schedules permit. Despite yip gi sums brief time teaching in vancouver he has many former students who wanted to see him again during his recent visit. Many know do wai fong and other names he may have used. The reason I am telling you this is that doo wai fong has made claims to have met cheung lai chun and to have learned from him. That makes it my business. I have met a lot of good people in pakmei. Many in north america were just students who were asked or seen doing something that was different. Over time they became important to themselves and to their students. Funny many in hong kong and mainland china do not know them. I met a gentleman whose teacher died and still plays a big part in the association. I asked him if he still practiced. He said his teacher died. In North America we have silly lineage wars however in china or hong kong if you are family , then you are family. If you are not you simply do not exist. Sorry for going on and I didn’t mean to sound like a lecture but I have been known to get a little riled over bs.

Then another email from him stating this:

"just a clarification–wilkie is the name woo wai quan goes by–canadian name
cheung sui man goes by the name simon here-cheung sui man is from nm ging and is our line of pakmei. These men do not teach for a living and have their own professions. My teacher is retired and has a few todei with schools. His todei are also professionals who do not have to teach for a living. No one that I know teaches for a living. Pakmei sifu are wealthy businessmen, retired professionals, higher ups in the military or police detectives. They teach family and friends. "

These seem like intelligent, well thought out responses to questions to me. Any questions brought to GM Doo Wai’s clan brings nothing but insults and immature name calling, but no real answers. Even here, IRONMAN sticks to his boldtype and smiley faces like he does on the BFP boards, but doesn’t answer anything.

Again - if the other board is a copyright infringement, you are a lawyer - why not shut it down immediately?

And, please… I only posted on your boards using CLFLPStudent ( David, not Ross!). I stopped at my Sifu’s request but posted again after you 3 ( 2? 1? who can tell?) started trash talking again. Look at the IP’s, they wont lie.

-David ( Harout - what does negativity have to do with your coconut break? Bad vibes screw up your Mojo?)