[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;958465]Wow, just…wow.:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
lol, you caught that too eh?
hmmmmmn.
oh wait…
Bwahahahahahahahhahaahahahahah WTF!!! ELEVEN!!!
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;958467]lol, you caught that too eh?
hmmmmmn.
oh wait…
Bwahahahahahahahhahaahahahahah WTF!!! ELEVEN!!![/QUOTE]
I don’t usually comment on any of his posts because, well, LCP seems to be living in La-La land more than in the real world, but that one was just…Wow !
LMAO !!
Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique
'nuff said.
Place your fist’s first two knuckles against the wall at face hight… look at your wrist alignment here. It’s terrible.
Now place your last two knuckles against the wall. Much better alignment. This is why boxers can hit the heavy bag without closing their fist all the way. Those last two knuckles line up well.
But strikes come in from all different angles. Which require different alignments, so in reality there is no right or wrong way. It all depends.
I still like using single knuckle strikes from time to time, in close range, when targeting ribs or the upper lip.
best results come from striking with the structure that is fully support through the skeleton.
while many people do hit with the pinky and ring, those can easily damage the bones in the hand behind them, whereas index and middle are supported more robustly by the entire skeletal structure. (they connect well through the hand to the two arm bones which in turn are supported by the rest of the skeletal structure)
ultimately, what you want to do is land your punches with some power.
you will find that you cannot always strike with the index and middle and that you will need to train to strike with them for best effect.
You will also find that you are not always able to cleanly strike with that structure 100% of the time.
Just do lots of knuckle push ups and heavy bag work. That will teach proper alignment through various rotations quickly.
jd
Thanks for all the really good advice everyone.
Currently im taught to try to use the first two knuckles and we always emphasize this whenever doing knuckle push ups and hitting bags.
I think however I might give the other knuckles a little more attention now.
Again thanks everyone
Baah, who needs to use fists. Personally, my uber secret technique is to smash my opponents fists with my face.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;958470]I don’t usually comment on any of his posts because, well, LCP seems to be living in La-La land more than in the real world, but that one was just…Wow !
LMAO !![/QUOTE]
he remembers living in new orleans in the 60s
so while he lives in my state (albeit a 4.5+ hour drive),
i’m reluctant to go and show him that my hook & my follow through aren’t a waste of time
not big on beating up old men
at least not until i’m 35+ and start fighting in the master’s division.
supposedly as ive heard from morio higaonna saying that last two are supposedly connected with the heart in chinese medical textbooks so its advocated to punch with the first two for your healths sake
if you do alot of makiwara practice youll become acustomed to it and your knuckles will enlarge to make it easier to strike with the first two
Knuckleberry finn
[QUOTE=Facepalm;958277]So Ive heard that you should punch with the first two knuckles because they are the largest and the bones extend into your forearm.
Ive also heard you should punch with the last three knuckles because they extend into your forearm.
Which one is it guys.[/QUOTE]
Fundamentally speaking anyway, using your fists to strike out in defence is going to be a subjective matter. The options that would become available to hit may be limbs, parts of the torso, the head.
Your striking techniques change accordingly. They have to, unless of course you truely have conditioned hands – you have soaked them in vinegar, etc.
If those hands of yours aren’t conditioned, then a multitude of strikes using different areas of the hand are an option, unless you don’t mind injuring your hands as would happen in repititive blows of the same technique to the head.
[QUOTE=TenTigers;958331]I throw my hook with a vertical fist. This way, it ensures that I am always landing with my fist, wrist and knuckles aligned to my radius and ulna. If you have a taped, wrapped, gloved hand, for sport fighting, it may not be as crucial, but in bare-knuckle fighting, it most certainly is.[/QUOTE]
Its still very common in boxing, to throw it like that, glove or no glove.
Anyways, back to the original question. People say this, people say that. If you’re throwing your punch with enough force at a heavy bag or whatnot, you can figure it out for yourself. Hurt = Bad. Doesn’t hurt = Good. If its doing damage, you should feel it, just like you’ll feel it if your wrist isn’t straight and you land a big bomb on the bag or mitt. Ouch. Yeah I learned really quick how to throw my hook after going home with extreme pain in my wrists.
Of course, if all you do is punch the air, it doesn’t really matter what knuckle you punch with, you’re gonna get your ass kicked anyway
I busted my wrist twice learning Hsing-I. It increased my punching power tremendously but I didn’t use wraps and didn’t have all this down the way I do now… though I was fired up hitting the bag in my house the other day and I was going one way, the bag the other, and I slipped off a wide hook and my wrist bent kind of funny. No injury. No pain. Got lucky. The jiu-jitz helps with that, though.
I use the common index+middle knuckle punch, but most of the impact with the middle knuckle.
oh i forgot to mention if your gonna punch with the first two knuckles60 percent of the impact should be with the first knuckles and forty on the second:D
I’m slow so I have to ask: you’re fu(king kidding right?
whos joking?
i think he meant the contact distribution of the knuckles you posted.
im assuming that you mean when you’re drilling punches on a makiwara or something, because trying to be that precice when your in the middle of a fight isnt really a priority, or realistic. i mean i suppose if thats how you drill your punches, then in a fight your going to fall back on your structure and technique, but all of the variances in play are going to make it imperfect, by nature.
I miss the LSD-laced drinks… it’s been a long time.
you dont have to think about it when your in the middle of a fight you hit the makiwara so many times the correct way its just the way you naturally punch while you spar or hit the heavy bag
after a few months of hard every day conditioning ive never punched someone or the heavy bag with any thing other than the first two knuckles it just becomes automatic:D
the general 60/40 is excepted in all major karate styles as the prefered way to strike