When an individual tries to start something with you when do you say when?
Some are taught that if a person attacks you than you take them out as quickly as possible without predjudice.
Knowing Wing Chun, when do you stop and say to yourself that enough is enough? If the mind is trained to automatically take the opponent out how do you know when enough is ACTUALLY enough?
Continued blessings in your life and your training.
The key to understanding is to open your mind and your heart and then the eyes will follow.
It’s hard to tell. The moment I feel genuiniely threatened I set myself for combat. One of the brilliant things about Wing Chun (and there are many!) is that the ready stance isn’t that different to a regular up-and-down body posture.
I had a guy come into the place I work and threaten to kill me about three days ago. It was a case of mistaken car identity in a road rage incident, but I knew I could defeat him at any point. I didn’t feel threatened at all so I didn’t even think about fighting him. But the moment you actually feel threatened…it’s a different story. Listen to your instincts, they rarely lead you astray. That’s when enough is enough.
“Through strength, learn gentleness. Through gentleness, strength will prevail”
i would, if i feel like hes about to attack, hit first,hit hard and keep hitting,i wouldnt stop untill he stops moving, or his leg is broken…his structure is completly broken,a broken leg should be the end of the conflict. and all the time keep in my head not to kill…i guess i would hold back that much…
simpleangles
I thought Wing Chun’s prime advantage was its ability to control (ie not kill – a firearm can give you that skill quicker and cheaper) your opponent. If you are in control of the whole situation, if you “own” your opponent, is the question of when to say when still relevant?
“Once I have harnessed the power of the Sun, I will be UNSTOPPABLE!” – Mini-Me
I’ve trained with guys dead set on pounding me, and others who don’t pound me (while I am sure they could) but manage to defeat any attempt at attack I may make. Given that Wing Chun is deadly, I personally prefer to emulate the latter.
“Once I have harnessed the power of the Sun, I will be UNSTOPPABLE!” – Mini-Me
i think its a lot easier to kill than control your enemy…i was trained to hit for killing…i thought wing chun was a killing style you cant or should water down for show or fun…i think it should have stayed underground, but if it did then i wouldnt be curse with the gift of learning it, now would i.
simpleangles
I think what you’re trying to say is… that this should NEVER be a question, and if it is a question, then that’s a signal that you’re Wing Chun is not very good.
I thank you for your posts and I should have known better than to ask my question. Please forgive me for my display of ignorance.
I will make sure that when fighting I kill every opponent since stopping short of killing them would indicate that my Wing Chun is not very good.
If you had nothing positive to offer to this post why did you even waste your time replying? You could have better spent your time practicing your self love.
Continued blessings in your life and your training.
The key to understanding is to open your mind and your heart and then the eyes will follow.
I totally agree with you. I also believe that this is partially what Whipping Hand and Meng Shuo were saying. However you say it in a much better format - non-insulting.
My question was this:
If you are taught to just rip through the opponent, when do you learn to say when? When is it enough?
Would you rip apart a drunk who is barely able to control himself let alone have teh ability to take you out? No - so in this case you know when to say when.
How do you teach your mind to NOT rip through and learn to asses the proper response?
Continued blessings in your life and your training.
The key to understanding is to open your mind and your heart and then the eyes will follow.
The problem is that you may only get a split second to decide. Do you want to gamble with your life (or your loved ones lives) that you can control your opponent? If you guess wrong, then you might not get the opportunity to escalate your response.
Does that mean that mean I will try to kill everyone that I meet? No. It does mean that I will not hesitate nor will I curtail my response once the decision has been made.
Wing Chun trains your body to be a weapon. Like other weapons, if you aren’t prepared to fully use it, don’t pull it out. Every practitioner needs to ask him or herself what situations require a WC response.
If drunk Uncle Bob is making an ass of himself, I seriously doubt he is a threat to anyone other than himself (unless he tries to drive). Drunks aren’t usually too coordinated. Think about situations that you might find yourself in and play “What if?” That’s probably the best way to make a decision for YOURSELF.
Personally, if I fear for myself or those I am with, then my first response is to remove myself/us from the situation. A physical response is my last resort, but once it gets to that level, I don’t hold anything back.
spectre-“How do you teach your mind to NOT rip through and learn to asses the proper response?”
So you don’t think that you make a conscious decision to stop beating him? Well… if that’s true the only way to teach your mind will be to go kick the crap out of some drunks until you start “assessing the proper responseâ€
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[This message was edited by CanadianBadAss on 10-09-01 at 04:51 PM.]