david jamieson,
i know you think you have something to say, but i feel if you are not choy lee fut then you should keep out of it. it’s for choy lee fut people to work out. not for people from others systems to worry about.
you just want to get in on the controversy. i don’t know you, don’t care, and don’t care what you have to say since you are always playing the devil’s advocate or just to play the opposite cause you are bored. you have nothing, or have ever contributed to choy lee fut so why does OUR battle have to even cross your lips.
to everyone else, i do feel the actual history of choy lee fut can be our down fall, and because one side wants to claim ALL power, while the others feel the have equal share is when the power struggle begins.
as i’ve said for most of the time i’ve been a member on this forum i’ve always said that all i was trying to do was tell the history of the fut san hsk. if it differed to that of the chan family, then there must be a reason somewhere. but as we’ve all seen, choy lee fut is focked up when it comes to history. that’s right. i’m not focked up. CHOY LEE FUT"S HISTORY is focked up.
although EJ has never seen any actual writings of chan heung he battles with anyone who opposes their history. for example, the green grass monk has and will always be a hung sing character, and not a chan family one. but because of this battle it has caused the chan family alter their history to include ggm.
For decades, only the chan family history of clf came out. when we started telling the fut san history, no one welcomed it because no one heard of it before. Including any school that has fut san hsk in it, i know their lineages told of the green grass monk. Instead of listening to the history, exploring it without malice, we all could have been instrumental in putting back together the pieces.
Instead, this side says this, that side says that. a division was already preset long before me, and i am in no way responsible for any ill affects because of my passion for the history of MY branch. I will be satisfied in being known as a participator of the history battle, not some villain who intended to spread evil.
for example, not one of you knew anything about the green grass monk. however, by doing my own research i have learned alot about who the GGM may have been. the other side claimed for so llong he was a myth. but, now there are many writings that mention ggm (even from other styles outside of CLF), come to learn a chinese government official instructs a hung sing guy to include the ggm in the writings of their history, and according those in fut san around the japanese invasion and amongst the rubble of peoples homes, actual ancestor tablets with GGM’s name on it were discovered.
instead of saying “wow, are you serious?” do they have any photo’s of it? “are they still in tact”…what else do you know.?..but no. instead people challenge it instead of considering it. why instantly challenge it if there is nothing to lose?
EJ comes around and instantly acts like he knows what’s going on in fut san, or about their (our) history, but has yet to ever and i mean ever tried to educate us on jeong yim, what he’s done, and why he was so famous. …you guys basically worship EJ, but he lacks one thing. information about the fut san hung sing kwoon.
If the battle didn’t happen, most of you would still think jeong yim didn’t enter the picture until (as they claim it) chan heung sent jeong yim in 1867 to fut san. but as I’ve clearly stated, records show jeong yim’s school active in 1851 at the time of the tai ping rebellion. there is so much more about jeong yim that most of you don’t know, but is sad because none of you want to know.
for example again. Did any of you know jeong yim had a wife named chan kay? did any of you know that he also had two sons who died young? did any of you know that Fut San wasn’t the first place Jeong Yim opened a school…he first opened in Kong Moon, and Dong Ling Village. You guys don’t know where jeong yim is even buried, or supposedy buried. that’s sad, because most of you here are connected to jeong yim in one way or another. but because of a lack of interest you won’t even care to learn. most of you will shoot it down because if chan heung or his branch didn’t authorize it, it’s completely wrong. however, jeong yim was a real person, with real disciples, and a real lineage. when people from the direct lineage try to tell his story, it’s truly unfortunate that ALL of you shut off your ears.
now, i’m not trying to teach you guys about the history of jeong yim, at first i wanted to share it with you. but i find that senseless. I will just put it in my books, and if you want to read it then you can check out the book. I just hope that other disciples who have jeong yim in their lineage will one day want to know, and if no one documents the history, then it will be forgotten forever.
what i’m trying to say, is the reason for the history wars is that no one wants to keep an open mind. when people close off their minds to even consider the possiblities, then that’s when CHOY LEE FUT will suffer. If there weren’t tug of wars, we may be able to repair the damage that has already been suffered. i mean “We” because no one even wanted to weigh the possibilities or to even tear it apart to learn what was truth and was a falsehood.
still, this forum breeds people like kenny fist. no one is safe here. there will be no happiness unless drama is happening. it’s people like you who totally disregard the hsk history that will perpetuate the evil. if you were to accept that all 3 branches have legitimate histories, then why battle?
peace
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