I just got one of his videos and I’ve only had time to watch like 5 minutes of it. It seems pretty cool so far. Is there anything I should know about him or anything?
IronFist
All you need to know is that his ultra grand master was different from mine and therefore my lineage is better than his and yours. I will defeat you!!!
In light of all the recent brewhaha, this was perhaps a poor place and time to make this post…
RR
well
Randy is way better than your current instructor 
Odder, lol 
True.
You know what would be rad? You know tengu, the mythical beings that first taught the ninja? It would be awesome if some tengu came over while I was working out and decided to teach me ninjutsu
But until then I’ll have to settle for WC videos and this forum
I’ll review the tape after I watch it.
IronFist
Originally posted by IronFist
[B]Odder, lol
You know what would be rad? You know tengu, the mythical beings that first taught the ninja? It would be awesome if some tengu came over while I was working out and decided to teach me ninjutsu
But until then I’ll have to settle for WC videos and this forum
I’ll review the tape after I watch it.
IronFist [/B]
You can’t learn anything of value from videos and this forum unless you already have a good teacher and have spent the time and hard work needed to cultivate an understanding of the art. Give yourself 20 years at least.
Regards,
Holy motivation, batman!
IronFist
Originally posted by Grendel
[B]
You can’t learn anything of value from videos and this forum unless you already have a good teacher and have spent the time and hard work needed to cultivate an understanding of the art. Give yourself 20 years at least.
Regards, [/B]
An old friend says, “Never say always, and never say never.” Still, I strongly agree with you on this account, Grendel. I’m not much a believer in instant kung fu.
Regards,
- kj
While i would say 20 years of practice or even an entire lifetime of practice is a good thing in Kung Fu, I would have to say that after 20 years, if you are not solid on a lot of things and even have personal mastery of a few things martial, well then what the heck are you doing?
I mean come one…20 years is long long time for gawds sake.
People say things like this all the time, i have no idea why.
peace
Originally posted by Kung Lek
People say things like this all the time, i have no idea why.
In part …
- To emphasize the relativity of accomplishment and understanding.
- To offer a tiny glimpse and perspective on the depth of the art.
- To counter-balance the tendency to trivialize the time, effort, and maturity required to realize deep understanding and exceptional levels of skill, not to mention the value of solid instruction and guidance.
- To underscore the importance of a well-founded investment, rather than a house built on sand.
- To give pause to consider how far there is yet to go, in hopes of not lavishing too long, too much, or with mis-spent pride in accomplishments thus far.
There is a saying …
“Doa lo yut cheung hung” meaning you are empty when you are old, because you were empty from the beginning. Or, put another way, when you get old, you’ll find that your practice was all for nought.
Another relevant saying is “Mm yan chi dai” meaning to mislead other people’s children, as Grendel previously explained.
Humility is more nutritional than over-confidence when it comes to learning, growth or even in teaching, IME and IMHO, whether kung fu or in most other endeavors. Sadly, if one is already a “Master,” the incentives for continued learning and growth become less pressing.
So I think these are a few of the many reasons why some say these things. Naturally, there will be differing perspectives.
Regards,
- Kathy Jo
Tapes
Tapes can only give a very superficial view on Wing Chun because of the numerous suttle and non visual aspects of the art.
You will learn more in an houre with a knowledgable sifu than by watching tapes for ten years.
Ten replies, two of which are mine, and none of them answered my question Thanks.
WinterPalm’s and OdderMensch’s replies were the most helpful, tho. And kj gets props for her excellent use of bullet points.
I assume then that he must be pretty decent since I didn’t get any “stay away from this guy” replies yet.
Alright, rock on.
IronFist
edit: Oops, sorry, kj is a her
i think kj is a her…
you betchum- kj- is a her…and a very knowledgeable person too and devoted to the art.
Originally posted by IronFist
[B]
I assume then that he must be pretty decent since I didn’t get any “stay away from this guy” [/B]
Nobody said ‘’ You must get them’’ also!..Tapes are more a promotionnal money making machine than a learning tool. Very few will learn more than superficial gestures imitation on these tapes.
Note: In order to avoid any paranoid extra pyramidal reactions from a certain lineage ,I must specify that my comments apply to all the avaliable videos on the market today.
Originally posted by IronFist
Ten replies, two of which are mine, and none of them answered my question
Wait. Stop! There be rocks ahead! 
Didn’t mean to be too subtle for you. I don’t endorse Randy Williams’ teaching. Now what can you make of that? You don’t know me either. :rolleyes:
Best you take care, and reread what KJ (Kathy Jo) posted. She is one of the few whose search for the real Wing Chun paid off.
Regards,
He seems too tence …this is only my novice opinion, i am not a master.
Randy Who?
'Nuff said.
Randy’s tapes etc
His tapes and clear and thorough, and judging by the attitude he puts over on film, I would imagine him to be a good teacher. For me, the best thing about his tapes are their number… he covers alot of material.
However, I would recommend Duncan Leung’s tapes over Randy Williams’ as I feel the WC is better.
I would agree that, to me, RW’s WC looks a little tense, a little too muscular. But my biggest complaint about his vids is the distance. Often when demonstrating techniques, his opponent throws a punch that, if RW had just stood their and not moved at all, wouldn’t have landed. They are, in short, just too far away.
IMO, this doesn’t demo what WC is really all about. That said, I have a few of his videos and on the whole enjoyed watching them.
But I’m crazy about WC and would buy pretty much anyone’s tapes just to have a look at what they have to offer.
If your interested in buying some tapes, my first choice would be WSL’s tape, and then Duncan Leung’s and Augustine Fong’s (though there are things that irked me a little with Fong Sifu’s tapes too )
Why o why o why do people keep going on about videos? the wsl one was terrible, it just gets worse and worse from there…