NPmantis
Excuse my ignorance here, I assume you do Mantis? Are you thinking of leaving a Mantis sytle to do Wing Chun? If so, that is a**backwards. I have only seen people go from WC up to Mantis. As for doing a southern style, Choy Lee Fut (Lee Kwoon Hung`s) lineage would be my choice, Great fighters! Have a good day.
Fiercest Tiger
Are you from Australia? One of my best Gong fu brothers is from Melbourne. N/Mantis starts with stances/forms, not true. My first day with Pong Lai, I left with a bloody-lip, and severe pain in shins and calf muscle.
Stacey
Hapkidos super stuff cant even match up to Mantis, we are far too superior, no questions asked. Read your history folks.
PaulLin
Thank you for the post, what are some forarm conditioning exercises in your style? I`ll gladly share.
no, there’s no way I’d leave mantis! I am just interested in seeing another style.
I have never heard of Choy Lee Fut before (my knowledge of southern styles is very limited) and can’t find it on www.bccma.org.uk (Chinese Martial Assoc. in England). But I will have a search of the internet to find out more. Thank you for your suggestion!
We train our forarm by starts from external and develop to internal. The location of the forarm is at where it needed for the application. Such as in Guin Lo Shuo(rolling and leak in hand), Chin Long Bai Wei(blue dragon swings tail), and Fan Shen Bon Pi(body flipped and back fist strike follow by split hammer fist).
Instead of practice on dead object, we practice on live arms. Starts with your own arms. until they reach a certain level of pressure resistance, then starts the 2 people train.
During the 2 people train, one will need to move the external aspects to the internal. That is rather than forcing the pressures to forarm, one will concentrate on the meridian instead. It will goes form the fist all the way to the center of foot. Until one can pass the force successfully from the forarm to the ground through the center of feet without the force make result in the body and break the meridian path. By focusing on the meridian path, one must take the whole chi network system in consideration according to the purpose of the chi. The main idea is to take the Ho Ten(postnatal) force to help complete the jobs of Shien Ten(prenatal) enegy. For example, one can pass the viberation form the forarm along the meridian to the body parts that needed the breaking down forces and safe the prenatal energy(that is already in your body) to used in the counter part of job–preserve and collecting.
After that, one will start to move around eachother while training with forarm. It will add the using and the handling of body force by stepping. The force should canciled each other(or well used/redircted) and not damage the body. So it is a good idea to train with a same level partner.
If the internal part was complete, the arm should be very soft when relex and very hard when pressured. Not like it is dead hard and not able to relex, that will be bad for chi and blood circlation and cause problem when one gets old. This is unique part in 8 step mantis compare to other mantis since 8 step has the concepts of the Hsing-I and Ba-Gua in it.
N/Mantis starts with stances/forms, not true. My first day with Pong Lai, I left with a bloody-lip, and severe pain in shins and calf muscle.
ouch! but yu shan, you had prior KF training. Did PL go hard on you right away because you already had a foundation? Do newbies go through the same pain on day 1?
(not that stance training isn’t painful! But then I’m a big wuss about pain.)
NPMantis
Nothing wrong with learning bout other styles, you have not heard of Choy Lee Fut(southern) Gong fu? Its really good stuff.
SaM
Thank you for the word on CLF Gong fu, its really good stuff. As for PL he went hard on me from the get-go, cause I was a Shrfu with WL. Newbies are not started out too hard, but the 2nd night is a differant story. Fiercest Tiger My Gong fu brothers name is Jonathen from Melbourne, no worries mate.
Paul Lin
Xie Xie, what other parts of the body do you condition? Thank you!
