What do you teach somone during thier first Wing Chun Class?

My thoughts:
Centerline
Clock theory
Gate theory
Animals
How to make a fist and striking surface
stance
basic footwork (advance, retreat, side step)

[QUOTE=HumbleWCGuy;1118505]My thoughts:
Centerline
Clock theory
Gate theory
Animals
How to make a fist and striking surface
stance
basic footwork (advance, retreat, side step)[/QUOTE]

The punch.

Six dimensional force vectors, levitation, microcosmic/macrocosmic orbits, yin and yang, the five elements, eight trigrams, and dim mak.

Seriously, not too much. Teach them the proper way to form a fist, basic lead and rear straight punches including stance and basic explanation of the centreline, coach them on punching using mitts for a while so they exert some energy and feel they have done something, and maybe let them work a light pak dar with a partner (preferably me).

IMO the first lesson is more about piquing their curiosity, getting them interested and making them feel welcome than anything else.

The first section of Siu Lim Tau so we can start to develop structure and the correct path of the elbow for the Ving Tsun straight punch. This is all a “newbie” should learn until results are seen or many problems will occur in the future.

Explaining too much is pointless in the beginning as VT is about concepts and principles and most will not understand. We all have “Karate” mentalities before we begin and this is not good for VT. This is only if the student has began training. If not its easy to explain the whole system in an afternoon. Some will walk away scratching their heads and some will see things clearly. It’s a normal problem in VT and why there are so many variations. The human factor…

GH

keep it simple as possible..I teach the first section of the SLT, the basic punch and how to move, and some of the ideas behind it. Don’t try to explain the whole system in one lesson.

[QUOTE=stonecrusher69;1118530]keep it simple as possible..I teach the first section of the SLT, the basic punch and how to move, and some of the ideas behind it. Don’t try to explain the whole system in one lesson.[/QUOTE]

I agree. Basic movement of SLT only, no details. Once they can memorize the sequence move on to the next section. However discussion of centerline concept is a must. Simple power training drills also on the day can be introduced.

First thing I tell everyone is

[SIZE=“7”]I Cheat!![/SIZE]

:slight_smile: :smiley: :wink:

[QUOTE=Sihing73;1118579]First thing I tell everyone is

[SIZE=“7”]I Cheat!![/SIZE]

:slight_smile: :smiley: ;)[/QUOTE]

i like this, for obvious reasons;)

[QUOTE=Sihing73;1118579]First thing I tell everyone is

[SIZE=“7”]I Cheat!![/SIZE]

:slight_smile: :smiley: ;)[/QUOTE]

LOL, nice! :smiley:

What to teach first?

When I started The Yum Yeurng Academy with my Sihing we had already decided that the page we were teaching had to be completed in one go. There was a set amount of lines to go through in a set period of time, and so we started with a fixed group for a fixed period so everybody was exposed to the same material. We tended to work with small groups of 4-5.

Our first line is our logo, or signature drill, which is accompanied by various therapeutic exercises to develop co-ordination and this is always taught first. :slight_smile:

I like to teach the following material on “day one”.

General defense against

  • punch (boxer).
  • front or side kick (TKD guy).
  • roundhouse kick (MT guy).
  • single leg or double legs shooting (wrestler).

Those defense skills may be different from style to style. Since those are the most common defense skills that everybody will need in today’s environment, it’s very important to deeply insert into new students mind on day one.

The idea of center of gravity
Basic Footwork
Basic Punches
Get them to hit pads and have some fun.

[QUOTE=Sihing73;1118579]First thing I tell everyone is

[SIZE=“7”]I Cheat!![/SIZE]

:slight_smile: :smiley: ;)[/QUOTE]

Dont trust what I say. try it yourself was one of the first I heard from my instructor when I switched to WC

Stretching followed by Kim Yeung Mah @ Chong Choi (which includes basics of center line theory) and kicking without bending/lowering one’s back or changing posture followed by Dim Gerk.

I can easily see why there are so many different followings of Wing Chun. Everyone has different emphisis on everything. When you are teaching someone something like Wing Chun you have to start very slowly. You try to shove too much down him right off the bat and none of it will stick. Or he will not remember it just exactly as you told it.
You have to spend a lot of time dealing with the concepts of WC. Explaining them completely. This can take some time, but doesn’t have to be fixed solidly into his brain, as he will remember most of it a little at a time as you teach other stuff, or he will ask, or you can again speak of it. You can not do proper forms without knowing exactly what it is that you are doing, and then you do have to learn the weapons of attack and defense, but you can not teach that much in a single 2 hour lesson. Can’t be done. don’t be in so much of a hurry.

Hello,

I still have my teaching syllabus from WT and use it as a good reference.

First off I would teach the stance and explain the principles behind it, also stressing this is not a fighting stance.

I would teach how to form a fist and throw a single punch. I would show one or two basics techniques, usually Pak Sau and Gaun Sau and have them practice those in the air and then with a partner, one punching one “blocking”.

Then at the end of the class I would have them try to combine the block and strike together. Only for about 10 to 15 minutes and then end class.

This would be for a formalized class at a school. Training in my backyard may be a bit different. :wink:

1st lesson with Leung, Kwok-Keung sifu, in Opera Wing Chun was;
Part of 1st form
Kung Fu based stretching
Seung Huen Sau Chi Sau (Double Circling Hand Sticking)

1st lesson with Jesse Glover, my Non-Classical Gung Fu instructor was;
Straight Punching on pads
Big Punch on pads
Back Fist on pads
Non-classical Sticking Hand
Calisthenics

If I taught a new student it would be;
Tabata conditioning for fighting *bag work, pad work, sprints, skipping
Straight punching on pads
Sparring *starting light
Chi Sao
*if any time, part of 1st form

Suki Gosal

I would teach her to learn how to open and close a heavy swing door.

Wing Chun is just that. open and close a heavy swing door practice for next few decades.

For the sake of discussion, how do you guys feel about teaching any form of chi sao on the first lesson (i noticed it was mentioned in this thread)? Personally it’s something I never thought of doing because I feel that the Ving Tsun I have been taught requires that at least the basics of Siu Nim tao are known decently well. But then again, there are are many ways to train Ving Tsun. For those of you who say that you’d teach some form of chi sao on the first lesson, what exactly would you teach? The first sensitivity drills I would teach a student before any other sensitivity training would involve sensitivity in san sao type techniques such as pak sao-pak da and lop sao.

[QUOTE=EternalSpring;1118770]For the sake of discussion, how do you guys feel about teaching any form of chi sao on the first lesson (i noticed it was mentioned in this thread)? Personally it’s something I never thought of doing because I feel that the Ving Tsun I have been taught requires that at least the basics of Siu Nim tao are known decently well. But then again, there are are many ways to train Ving Tsun. For those of you who say that you’d teach some form of chi sao on the first lesson, what exactly would you teach? The first sensitivity drills I would teach a student before any other sensitivity training would involve sensitivity in san sao type techniques such as pak sao-pak da and lop sao.[/QUOTE]

Id leave Chi sao out for a long time