What are the similarities between Wing Chun and Ngo Cho Kun ?

my dog is doing a GREAT job minding the litter…im just over excited specially when i see puppies walking around :slight_smile:

they arent stocky? hmmm…im starting to think that im not 100% chinese…

joe: how would u guard against WC? those fast medium hard blows are wuite annoying arent they :wink:

Your build may also depend on the region that your ancestors came from. I am also stocky, and that is a trait of the Hokkien people. Maybe Yip Man and his students are of a different region? (I don’t know much about Yip Man so I can’t say :)). Also, diet can make a big difference.

Hard to say how to counter Wing Chun as my experience was limited to 30-60 minutes watching Dez and mucking around with him. I would say there are two tactics I would consider 1) long, heavy punches to blast through or 2) stick to their arms as much as you can and use your sensitivity to counter their movement.

I would advocate sticking mainly because it is the best way to slow down a faster opponent, and most people are faster than me :frowning: :smiley:

Remember to keep your elbows tucked in though :slight_smile:

joe: my ancestors came from fujien as well :-)…my fater side relatives are quite tall…i think i inherited my mother side’s physical build :slight_smile: well,at least i can take more punishment than they do :wink:

aaaah..thanks for the tips :wink:

size isn’t an issue. Some WC peeps claim that it was made for girls but I don’t buy it, especialy not in china. It works well for smaller people because it doesn’t rely on strength or size, it uses your structure, sensitivity and root to overcome power, speed, strength. In theory anyway. I’m 210lbs, and stocky and I have found that all of the people I have touched hands with who I outweighed by about 20 lbs or so couldn’t stop me. Could be a level of skill thing but size does matter.

As for stopping WC people, get em talking about wing chun, or other lineages, or just claim your art is better then theirs. :wink: In reality there are no quick and easy methods for stopping any art. In theory the long form arts have a problem dealing with the infighting styles but a good long form guy knows how to keep the range where he wants it.
So the best way to beat a wing chun guy is to practice and be better then him.

As for stopping WC people, get em talking about wing chun, or other lineages, or just claim your art is better then theirs.
They already tried that and it didnt work on me :cool:

dawood

yes but that is because you practice an inferior lineage of wingchun. Your lineage has been altered/modified so that it isn’t as effective as my wing chun. We all know also that Yip Man did not teach your master wingchun, he bought it on the internet. :wink:

its not working man sorry :cool:

dawood

call yourself a wingchun man…

Yeah, I don’t know how Dez can publicly call himself a Wing Chun man. We sat there and for about an hour over dinner we tried to get him into a lineage debate but he just sat there and smiled! Wing Chun indeed! :smiley:

actually i AM a wing chun man - i didnt sit and smile i sat and ATE :cool:

dawood

[SIZE=1]ps: u cant touch this[/SIZE] :wink:

Originally posted by dezhen2001
[B]actually i AM a wing chun man - i didnt sit and smile i sat and ATE :cool:

dawood

[Size=1]ps: u cant touch this[SIZE] :wink: [/B]

Ahhhh, then your kung fu needs work because even though I talked I still ate more than you! :smiley:

thats debateable mate - i was eating for 2 as she was not wanting to eat too much :slight_smile:

dawood

Originally posted by dezhen2001
[B]thats debateable mate - i was eating for 2 as she was not wanting to eat too much :slight_smile:

dawood [/B]

C’mon, you saw the pile of chicken bones on my plate by the end of the meal. Easily the biggest pile :smiley:

i ate most of the smaller bones :stuck_out_tongue:

dawood

JOEDOE: help me activate my account over at vital points! thanks!

Originally posted by pitbull
JOEDOE: help me activate my account over at vital points! thanks!

From what I can see your account is OK. There isn’t anything else I can do - you might need to contact one of the others as I can only administer the Ngor Chor forum. Try contacting tatsujin.

thnks joedoe! u da man!

about wingchun…a delegation from china visited us this week…i thought they are fellow wu zu quzn practitioners or people from south shaolin…i was puzzled when i was told that they are wing chun people…i dont know about what hey talked about w my teacher and club officers…maybe hey came to talk about the november soouth shaolin expo(i hope i will be sponsored to go)

pitbull: i think there are some types of wing chun (different to yip man lineage) that do forms differently etc. Ask on the wing chun forum and i am sure you will get an answer :slight_smile:

dawood

Pitbull

Did you see them practice at all? What made you think they were Ngor Chor practitioners?

i havent seen them practice…almost every foreign visitor to our club are usually nck pratitioners…