weighted items

[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1108157]I used the ankle weight for my running. It hurt my knee joint. I stop using it since then.[/QUOTE]

Yes, ankle weights = no no. No good for the joints, especially hips and knees.

@brule. ya i do, but i never really thought about it. im really not a runner, ive always just incorporated weight in a backpack about 1out of ever 3 running sessions just because i figure it would help my leg strength…maybe i should look into a vest…

Lucas, yeah, look for a vest if that’s what you wanna do. Or make one yourself that distributes the weight evenly. Now, i’m not going to give you a TGY response as to why not to use a weighted back pack, maybe he can chime in here. You might not have issues now but it may down the line.

i also run on dirt. i never noticed any problems from ankle weights tho

[QUOTE=Brule;1108168]Lucas, yeah, look for a vest if that’s what you wanna do. Or make one yourself that distributes the weight evenly. Now, i’m not going to give you a TGY response as to why not to use a weighted back pack, maybe he can chime in here. But it would just make sense to me.[/QUOTE]

ya i can see how it does make sense…i guess i always just figured if its good enough for the marines its good enuf for me lol

[QUOTE=Lucas;1108169]i also run on dirt. i never noticed any problems from ankle weights tho[/QUOTE]

IMO, weight and speed just don’t go together very well. If you use weight to do slow move, it may be OK. When you try to use weight to do speed move, you may take some risk. I ususally used light weight for my speed training. One day I use 60 lb weight for my speed training, I could feel some torn muscle on my arm.

The only thing I do that equals added weight is using 16oz gloves to hit the bag.
Beyond that, nope.

Do you, or have you ever used the method of training where you punch with a dumbbell in your hand?

omg we totally do that in tae bo class on tuesdays..oh wait i mean we do that in my hard core mma gym.

I used to train with a mix of chrome and iron rings. One ring had a boxing wrap wrapped around it and it went on last, so it was the one that hit your fist. The wrap made it tighter as well as padded, so it really sealed off the rest of the rings on your arm, and your could ‘issue’ force and slam the rings without the damage to your hands, or the risk of losing the rings with a phoenix, which is smaller than a fist.

I like the conditioning of the arms and the extra weight training, but more I like the timing and the live work required to make them sing.

[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1108208]Do you, or have you ever used the method of training where you punch with a dumbbell in your hand?[/QUOTE]

Don’t do that…hurts elbows.

Punch to push a man very hard to build up muscle power.

[QUOTE=;1108253]Don’t do that…hurts elbows.

Punch to push a man very hard to build up muscle power.[/QUOTE]

I do an exercise with small dumbells, not quite punching but going through the motions, 100 to 200 times. More for strengthening than technique. Rings more for the Faat ging technique. Punching hard with dumbells doesn’t have the buildup of the rings as they slide up and collapse, it does hurt your elbows.

I also like pushing a heavy bag, both slowly using the back and stomach as well as arms and fast, like short power trying to use the same. The former swings the bag, the latter you try and bend it. I think of it as a balanced cycle, the two sides of the whole.

[QUOTE=Yum Cha;1108284]I do an exercise with small dumbells,[/QUOTE]

I still remember oneday a guy walked into my school. He pickup up a dumbell from the ground and started to hit on his own head (a tough guy). He then challenged me to fight him with punches only but no kicks, no throws (not too macho after all)). He had excellent muscle on his body. His muscle was almost as pretty as Bruce Lee had in his “Enter The Dragon” movie.

did you fist fight him?

[QUOTE=Lucas;1108318]did you fist fight him?[/QUOTE]

I did. It was so funny that someone started the challenge but he sets up the rules. Later on he open a JKD school. Oneday he had a public fight against someone. It was a fixed fight and I have not seen him since then. I also found out that his muscle came from his daily job, jack hammer operator.

haha must have been a pretty good jkd school with no kicking or throwing lolol some people are just nuts

its interesting you mention that i know i ahve trained with a few people that have very strong and defined muscles that they developed before any martial arts training. but some of these people dont even know how to use the muscles they have, they could hit soo much harder but they just hit like new learners anyway even tho they ahve all the muscle. only met a few like that over the years but it always is strange to me.

There is no conditioning like an ‘on the job’ conditioning.

[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1108208]Do you, or have you ever used the method of training where you punch with a dumbbell in your hand?[/QUOTE]

yes when i was young and silly, bimechanically the force is all wrong, it trains the wrong muscles to fire at the wrong time and trains the wrong resistance, want to work resistance in the proper plain use elastic bands

have used iron rings both slowly and quickly, havent touched them for years i simply think there are beter ways to strangthen and condition

[QUOTE=Lucas;1108336]its interesting you mention that i know i ahve trained with a few people that have very strong and defined muscles that they developed before any martial arts training. but some of these people dont even know how to use the muscles they have, they could hit soo much harder but they just hit like new learners anyway even tho they ahve all the muscle. only met a few like that over the years but it always is strange to me.[/QUOTE]

thats nothing to do with muscle and everything to do with technique, once biiger stronger guys learn technique to go along with that strength they are a real handful