Interesting idea I guess, but not in touch with reality. Once you’re in striking range, you better be striking or get struck.
Dale, thanks for the insights. This has been quite enlightening. Now I see and have a better understanding of some of your earlier comments in other threads. If this is representative of what you’ve seen as a Wing Chun “fighter” then I can clearly see how you’ve come to the conclusions that you have. :o
Knifefighter sez: What is it that make you believe that ANYONE’S sparring or fighting looks like wing chun?
In the same way all boxers spar and fight like grapplers
True Dat!!
The match was held at the kung fu school. There were only a few people from John’s team there. The reason you heard them doing the all the coaching was because his team was knowledgeable about what was going on on the ground. The kung fu fighter had many more people from his side there but they had very little or no experience groundfighting so they didn’t know what to tell him to do. Plus the fact that they were all in shock because they had thought the fight would never get to the ground in the first place
I don’t feel sorry for him now.
Of course. I’m not suggesting hitting them to the top of the head. Knes and elbows can also be used. No skilled fighter will simply charge at you. He will set you up with punches/feints before the shoot. I also understand that there is no perfect technique and that there is a counter to the counter to the . . . . .
We’ll be working against the shoot on Toronto this weekend. 
Phil
Ahhh, the sound of victory ?
Nice crack !
The hands, the legs - it was a tie bo mess.
His Technique was “Out the window”… no… “off the planet”
His biting needs work, no attempt.
It seems he may have had no idea what was comming…
If he knew what to expect from a grappler, i suspect he may have lasted another few seconds 
Stupid as it may be - he still stood up and engaged in a full contact fight and for that he deserves ‘some’ respect… at least for the entertainment value.
NICE! :p:p
I think that is a San Soo guy in the black outfit.
Gotta wonder…
…with all the remarks about how this guy couldn’t fight, how many of you here would be willing to go against a 220 lb professional MMA fighter with 5,000 on the line?
Screw that. I could have told you that avoiding that confrontation would be prudent for most anyone, unless they train that hard. But MMA aside…you couldn’t pay me to fight a profesional wrestler like Triple H or Stone Cold, or a boxer like Tyson. Do you think your MA skills could match to their physical prowess and fighting abilities? To me those guys are just as scary. In addition, I certainly wouldn’t face Emin Boztepe in a NHB for any amount of money. :eek: Me thinketh that guy is not human!
Ego strikes again!!
I can’t believe that clown chose for his first (obviously) full contact fight to be a no holds barred, no submission brawl with that gorilla.
“After whoopin your ass in front of all your students and taking your $5000, let me break your arm just to put an exclamation point on the whole experience for ya.”
I’ve had that arm lock thrown on by folks that weren’t trying to hurt me, and you know what…IT FREAKIN HURT!!! I can’t imagine how bad it hurt to have dude throw it on for real. I bet there was some serious shoulder damage done as well.
Hey Knifefighter, I’m curious, was the Kung Fu scarecrow at least humbled by the experience? Did he acknowledge that he was wrong and that he was bested? Or did he just run out the door and head for the ER?
Funny you should ask that question Dale…
I was wondering the same thing about you.
How do you think you’d do against John?
Stupid question
Knifefighter sez: Gotta wonder…
…with all the remarks about how this guy couldn’t fight, how many of you here would be willing to go against a 220 lb professional MMA fighter with 5,000 on the line?
CSK sez: Gotta wonder…
…with all the remarks about how this guy couldn’t fight, how many of you here would be willing to go against a 220 lb professional wing chun fighter with 5,000 on the line?
how many of you here would be willing to go against a 220 lb professional wing chun fighter
Can you name such an individual?
Anerlick sez: Can you name such an individual?
Let me put it this way, there won’t be a shortage of wing chun fighters if knifefighter wants to wager 5,000
Exactly! First of all this is a VERY old clip, so forgive me for yawning. Second have you EVER seen a clip of a Wing Chun man “entering” with his arms at his side like that? If someone wants to play silly clips they can take this same clip to every other kung for forum and claim it’s “MMA versus Praying Mantis” or “MMA versus Choi Li Fut” or whatever. It’s really just MMA versus somebody in a kung fu uniform and it proves absolutely nothing.
Regards,
John M. Drake
Most MMA fighters have no desire to fight someone heavier than them. That’s why they have this thing called “weight classes”.
Regards,
John M. Drake
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4754358887413654428
This is best example . . . there are plenty more too . . . Rickson v. Zulu . . . even early UFC . . . still goes on in KOTC. You can find plenty if you look.
Thanks,
Ghost
Oh sure. And there are clips of Rickson getting his butt beat too. Your point? [;)] Seriously, just because you find some anomalous clip of someone beating someone larger does NOT disprove the larger point that “size does matter”. If it didn’t matter there wouldn’t be weight classes. But enjoy your “video games”.
Regards,
John M. Drake