[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;871938]Anyone who has seen any of the current crop of MA instructionals that are available right now and thinks that you CAN’T learn form them, is either smoking weed and not sharing or they have something to sell themselves.[/QUOTE]As a matter of interest, what are your current personal recommendations?
[QUOTE=CFT;872053]As a matter of interest, what are your current personal recommendations?[/QUOTE]
In regards too what systems?
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;872055]In regards too what systems?[/QUOTE]Any. Standup striking, grappling, weapons. Don’t worry if it will take too much effort to dig up the info.
[QUOTE=CFT;872067]Any. Standup striking, grappling, weapons. Don’t worry if it will take too much effort to dig up the info.[/QUOTE]
Well, its just the specifics narrow down the amount of info.
EX:
Robert Drysdale has an excellent series on no-gi BJJ called the nth Dimension, its very well done and well explained and anyone can pick up some value stuff to add to their no-gi grappling.
But it is specific to no-gi grappling.
[QUOTE=KPM;871824]I disagree. You can learn a lot from books and videos. Especially if you have some background in the basics to build upon. But you still need someone to help and guide you. :)[/QUOTE]
Even if you have a background you need someone to watch over you and help you. It really depends on if your learning a small idea or a large idea..
If I’m I learning just another way to cover a punch, OK.. but if I’m learning a whole new system of grappling.. chances are your going to miss allot of things and do allot of things flat out wrong. (you can still do things wrong when you have someone teach you.. )
YOU can always just fudge your way through.. but its better to have someone who at least has a good idea of how something works. It cuts the learning process down by allot.
again NO books or DVDs teach you the every form and all of the applications. Wing Chun isn’t an easy style to learn.. so your better off learning from a good teacher in your area no matter what style it is. Maybe take up JKD..
[QUOTE=monji112000;872074]Even if you have a background you need someone to watch over you and help you. It really depends on if your learning a small idea or a large idea..
If I’m I learning just another way to cover a punch, OK.. but if I’m learning a whole new system of grappling.. chances are your going to miss allot of things and do allot of things flat out wrong. (you can still do things wrong when you have someone teach you.. )
YOU can always just fudge your way through.. but its better to have someone who at least has a good idea of how something works. It cuts the learning process down by allot.
again NO books or DVDs teach you the every form and all of the applications. Wing Chun isn’t an easy style to learn.. so your better off learning from a good teacher in your area no matter what style it is. Maybe take up JKD..[/QUOTE]
I disagree in regards to basics and agree in regards to the “intricacies”.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;872075]I disagree in regards to basics and agree in regards to the “intricacies”.[/QUOTE]
this is my experience, I have always found that I “learn” allot more when I have someone who is better than me. Someone who actually knows something about what I’m doing. I have learned things on my own, but its a very long process. You often make mistakes and don’t know it.. then you can’t understand why it never works the way they say…
[QUOTE=monji112000;872116]this is my experience, I have always found that I “learn” allot more when I have someone who is better than me. Someone who actually knows something about what I’m doing. I have learned things on my own, but its a very long process. You often make mistakes and don’t know it.. then you can’t understand why it never works the way they say…[/QUOTE]
You always learn BETTER when you have someone teaching you who knows what he is doing.
I don’t think that anyone is arguing that, but you can learn certain things from instructionals.
Thing is, you really do need someone to give you feedback, and that is the core issue and one that speeds up your development.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;872120]You always learn BETTER when you have someone teaching you who knows what he is doing.
I don’t think that anyone is arguing that, but you can learn certain things from instructionals.
Thing is, you really do need someone to give you feedback, and that is the core issue and one that speeds up your development.[/QUOTE]
And a lot can be said about pressure testing something. It doesn’t matter if Sifu sez or Videotape sez… if it works under pressure, it’s probably valuable. That’s always a good gage, too.
[QUOTE=couch;872132]And a lot can be said about pressure testing something. It doesn’t matter if Sifu sez or Videotape sez… if it works under pressure, it’s probably valuable. That’s always a good gage, too.[/QUOTE]
Quite, pressure testing is the only test.
[QUOTE=Katsu Jin Ken;870160]anyone know of any books/vids that explain each movement in the forms and the different applications for each? Im realitivaly new to the art. 2 years experience i know all the empty hand forms but dont yet completely understand just looking for someone different views other than mine or my sifu’s
any help at all would be apprieciated,[/QUOTE]
I put stuff up on www.youtube.com just search tjwingchun SLT is there in detail and when my life settles down all the forms of Wing Chun will be.
I simply try to explain the forms as personal body mechanics, no Chinese hype or mysticism, my view is that the forms, especially the first 2 are not application related but simply methods to know the various ways energy can be created in the body and the different directions they can be utilised.
thanks for all the advice guys FYI im in southwest missouri, around the nixa area
Differences in chi sao
IMO- Ip Chun’s chi sao is likely to be different from many others. Generalizations about everyone’s chi sao are problematic.
joy chaudhuri
I bought a heap of vids and books over the years. I have found that books tend to get me interested or give me different views which I can ask my teacher about or trial it in training. As long as you aren’t just doing it on your own and your teacher knows and can explain stuff it shouldn’t matter.On the benny mengs vids, I bought nearly all his books (quite good) and his SLT video. The vid was described as SLT as taught by 5-6 grand masters ( I bought it about 6yrs ago so it may be more or less). When I got it the quality and presentation was good but it was one person doing the form and benny meng saying, Chu shun tin says this, WSL says this. I was thinking it would be the different forms with an explanation and why they do different things. It was more his form with little snipits of what other people say. So was not very happy. Probably the best one I had seen at the time but was given too much hype and didnt deliver.