the definition of Ba Ji is to use the head, shoulder, elbow, hand, chest/back, hip, knee and foot or 8 body parts.
so it is very powerful.
the next question would be what kind of power?
and how to train them?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwW4J9W8APs
rooting/planting power (gen jin)
downward sinking power (xia cheng jin)
extending power (cheng jin)
outburst power (bao za/fa jin)
closing power (he jin)
opening power (kai jin)
pushing power (ding jin)
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so my friends asked me to talk about the new book came out yesterday.
it is written like a manual or note format.
to cut the page counts and pricing. everything is written like an abstract or not wordy.
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the powers may be characterized by directions, grades, properties, purpose/function etc etc.
usually in each move/posture, there exist several types of powers and not just one.
some requirements;
three internal harmonies: will/yi, qi, Li.
3 external harmonies: hand and foot in sync/harmony, elbow and knee in harmony, shoulder and hip in harmony.
just to share some thoughts.
:D;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQUEBA3dVUQ
grinding or nian jin.
stamping/landing power or zhen jiao.
on and on.
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12 crossing or si zi jin.
some would say it exist in all postures.
or just as downward sinking power present in all postures.
14 inch power or cun jin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itXCOa9nDC8&feature=related
edit: my moves may not be perfect, however the basic ideas are there.
16, stepping or walking power/ zou jin.
all the powers actually come from stepping into position and posture.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqJXoR2KzYs
ba ji stepping is moving close to the opponent, the closer the better,
you may notice there are different stepping methods in each practice vid.
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[QUOTE=SPJ;819483]the definition of Ba Ji is to use the head, shoulder, elbow, hand, chest/back, hip, knee and foot or 8 body parts.
so it is very powerful.
the next question would be what kind of power?
and how to train them?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwW4J9W8APs
rooting/planting power (gen jin)
downward sinking power (xia cheng jin)
extending power (cheng jin)
outburst power (bao za/fa jin)
closing power (he jin)
opening power (kai jin)
pushing power (ding jin)
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So, how is that Baji? I’ve done those 8 things in every martial art I’ve tried, and they’re almost all the same every time, even though they have different names. Chi is universal, it’s breath. It’s stressed in every MA and sport, only it’s not called chi. Not trolling, just like to hear what you think identifies Baji from anything else, other than the format of the forms.
LOL…every time I’ve stepped into another school, they tell me “We do things a little differently than everyone else. We do this…” and then it winds up being the same exact thing I’ve done elsewhere…LOL…
I do not do that many styles, so I may not comment on others.
there are several definitions of Ba Ji.
one is to use the 8 body parts to the extremes. or practice using these 8 parts to greatest skills.
tactics and strategy. if you restrain the opponent’s arm/s, you open the door you may mount attacks from the 8 zones or all directions.
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Ba Ji is close fighting style. Wing Chun is short range or elbow distance fighting.
Ba Ji is even closer than that. so there are a lot of inch powers or small distance outburst powers.
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baji
baji seems to be to have a lot of concepts in common with muay thai. it covers all ranges and focuses on short fast and fluid strikes mainly.
jesus christ. you read into this **** way too much. just train. train so you can fock someone up if you have to. thats baji.
another area that may be distinct.
you confine the opponent’s attacking arm or leg. meaning you do not push or pull it.
you leave it where it is, you guard or grapple it, and you move your body to be close instead.
it is called inch intercept, inch grappling or cun jie cun na.
you do not pull the opponent close to you, you move closer to him.
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Ba Ji
[QUOTE=shaolin_allan;820289]baji seems to be to have a lot of concepts in common with muay thai. it covers all ranges and focuses on short fast and fluid strikes mainly.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=street_fighter;820290]jesus christ. you read into this **** way too much. just train. train so you can fock someone up if you have to. thats baji.[/QUOTE]
This is what I mean. Every martial art I’ve stepped into plays the range game, but the focus is on staying in the 1-pace range. Why? Because this is where all fights actually happen. I’m sick and tired of sparring people who want to pace around and launch kicks I can catch b/c I see them coming a mile away. So whenever I spar, it’s at the grappling range, or not at all. It’s where a fight happens. I dodge into and out of that range to change angles, but I dodge right back into it immediately. Almost every art uses every part of the body–elbows, knees, hands, feet, head—it’s always the eight primary weapons; always a science of eight limbs. Nothing’s really Muay Thai, nothing’s really Baji. You just train to F-people up. Nobody has a patent on a knee, grappling, or a punch. Fighting is fighting is fighting.
Styles are just good for looking cool before you get down and dirty.
[QUOTE=Shaolin Wookie;820333]This is what I mean. Every martial art I’ve stepped into plays the range game, but the focus is on staying in the 1-pace range. Why? Because this is where all fights actually happen. I’m sick and tired of sparring people who want to pace around and launch kicks I can catch b/c I see them coming a mile away. So whenever I spar, it’s at the grappling range, or not at all. It’s where a fight happens. I dodge into and out of that range to change angles, but I dodge right back into it immediately. Almost every art uses every part of the body–elbows, knees, hands, feet, head—it’s always the eight primary weapons; always a science of eight limbs. Nothing’s really Muay Thai, nothing’s really Baji. You just train to F-people up. Nobody has a patent on a knee, grappling, or a punch. Fighting is fighting is fighting.
Styles are just good for looking cool before you get down and dirty.[/QUOTE]
gotta agree with that. espiecially the part about training to **** people up cause essientially thats what we do.
that is why I dun like the first definition of 8 body part extremes.
however, it is the “official” definition.
personally I like the second definition.
core principles of styles
=main tactics and strategy of styles.
what methods are preferred and honing in on in you or your style.
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