Well i said Stan is my Sihing, Big brother. He’s been training WC longer than I have. I started training when I was teenager. I believe he had five years or more on me by then.
Let me digress. I see your discuing the techniques or principles behind triangle palms. Great…
As for Stan i dont see on his videos where he is saying he is a Sifu. he is passing his WC on to his Son. Who is in the video.
In the video he is not demostrating the Triangle Palms as you have on picture. He is demostrating a section in Siu Lien Tao form. He is showing a possible application for it…Where he demostrates Man Sau to intercept intial attack, from there he wu sau or pak sau an incoming attack. An then tan sau the second punch coming next. I am the one who is correlating his application to the triangle palms because stan is showing how you apply those techniques with a real like person. In other words With triangle plams on the wooden dummy it starts off with tan than wu then gan. But this is just a mere principle. You can tweak it as you like. I start it off with Wu sau then tan sau then jum sau…But the video stan has is showing two of the techniques. The wu sau and tan sau. So i simply shared the video so you can see how the two techniques are utilize on a real living person. If you know of any videos that are better please share!
The way i do triangle is different
Wu Sau
Tan Sau
Jum Sau
When you do something on the dummy the posistioning is slightly different than a live person. When you drill with a person your energy is different. you have to change the energy so the technique will work correctly.
But i dont see what he is doing as bad as you guys do. Infact i see the same stuff in other peoples videos on youtube he being doing WC for decades like stan has!
If you doubt his gung fu…by all means i suggest you meet up with him an show him what real wing chun is.
I enjoy training with him. He is alot fun to spar with with as well as chi sau. When i say spar i dont mean chi sau!
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Give me something else to go with because from what I see, and from what I understand to be a use of ‘triangle palm’, they are poles apart…
Firstly - The SEED of Tan, Fook and Bong as shown in the Dummy pics is rotated in sequence during this type of interaction, and Stan is not doing this. His basic level is very evident as he swings back and forth repeating the SEED in/out etc rather than staying to the method you talk of and then, to make matters worse, he starts to ‘dive-in’ to a loose 'Sansau attack method. Not good imho.
Secondly - The SEED relates directly to the ‘techniques’ of Mun, Wu and Gaan buut you need to understand the posturing first and exactly what the supporting hand is doing. Stan does not seem to be connected to this idea at all.
Third and finally - There are various ways of interpreting the ‘traingle palm’ method. One: you create a triangle of ‘intent’ at the back/base of the thumb to project a traingular shape of the hand in each SEED. Two: there is a refernce from my own training where this triangle is related directly to the contact target ie. the bends of elbows/knees, the under arms etc called ‘saam gok jeung’ which is trained specifically on our Mook Yan Jong.
I do not have a problem with the quality/standard of Wing Chun in Stans clips. he is simply doing what he is doing. BUT when you have many many people who have dedicated more than half their lives to the system it tends to get a bit tedious seeing such levels of skill (or lack of) being touted as ‘Sifu’ quality. And if you are his SiHing, I would hold YOU responsible for his standard lol!!
So, rather than pummeling the boards with all these threads, I would ask that you pay Stan a visit and work harder at raising HIS game if he wants to be taken seriously as a Sifu in this big bad World of Wing Chun today
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