some women have super powers, i swear.
[QUOTE=Lucas;1181147]some women have super powers, i swear.[/QUOTE]
True. …
[QUOTE=RenDaHai;1181057]Was answering question in post number one. In a ring the only way to win is to destroy the opponent, thus we train with attacking in mind. This is not true of the ‘street’ as their are many different ways to conclude an encounter. Thus when our focus is on attack we are likely to be training for sport. Or for mugging someone. Clearer?[/QUOTE]
I get the point about aggression further down in your post and for the most part I agree that when you’re sparring often in a sport context the answer to everything becomes a punch in the mouth when perhaps a little more tact is called for.
To say that to train for sport is to only train offence is a rather egregious generalization. Some fighters play it very safe and are only as aggressive as it takes to win a round. Moreover some of the greatest fighters in history have been known for very conservative tactics centered on effective defensive techniques.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G5v_PNsl4Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK9en6g9JTQ
Even Tyson, who is obviously known for his aggression had an “impregnable defense”
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1180986]When someone said, “You only train for the sport. You are not train for the street.” What does he mean? How do you train the street situation? Go to a bar and pick up fights every might? How can you train for the street and not to have problem with the law?
Your thought?[/QUOTE]
When you train for the street it is all about technique. Most of the things you can’t do in a ring with rules and a referee. Things that can seriously hurt someone, things that can keep you alive. And you do not have to go to bars and look for fights. In fact, fighting is about the worst way of trying to learn to fight street. You don’t learn by fighting. You train to fight first, then you try to apply what you have learned. If fighting is learning, then you would never have to step into a kwoon. You wouldn’t need to train in any system, just go to fighting until you had it all down. No, you learn to fight by training techniques that are usefull in a fight, then you try to apply them in a fight or during sparring or whatever.
Example. I think that in the ring the rules say to stay off small joints and fingers and such. In the street it is really easy to apply finger locks or even to break a finger for an opponent. Most people are seriously hindered when they have broken fingers. You don’t have to be able to fly or jump tall buildings like in the movies. You just need to learn to fight dirty.
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To say that to train for sport is to only train offence is a rather egregious generalization. Some fighters play it very safe and are only as aggressive as it takes to win a round. Moreover some of the greatest fighters in history have been known for very conservative tactics centered on effective defensive techniques.
Even Tyson, who is obviously known for his aggression had an “impregnable defense”
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Fair enough. It was a bit, just wanted to make the point. I realise you can play very defnesively, (and I am a big fan of tysons methods) but even when you do you do it is still with a very aggressive defence, with an eye to giving you lots of counter options as opposed to escape options.
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The VAST majority of KO’s we see in the street are just that: sucker shots of one sort or another.
in the street there is no such thing as a sucker shot, your either ready or your not.
[QUOTE=EarthDragon;1181234]in the street there is no such thing as a sucker shot, your either ready or your not.[/QUOTE]
Did you even read what you wrote dude, LOL !
i sucker punched a guy once in the street (well more like the sidewalk). he never saw it coming!!
a sucker punch is nothing other than a cheap shot while you’re aren’t ready. why is called sucker punch? cause you’re a sucker for not being ready or aware.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1181212]The VAST majority of KO’s we see in the street are just that: sucker shots of one sort or another.[/QUOTE]
Come On!!:mad: The Dude OBVIOUSLY tripped!!!:eek:
[QUOTE=hskwarrior;1181250]a sucker punch is nothing other than a cheap shot while you’re aren’t ready. why is called sucker punch? cause you’re a sucker for not being ready or aware. [/QUOTE]
whats funny is when a guy is acting all tough and chest bumping and getting in your face talking smack and they dont expect to get smacked in the mouth…its like…dude…how did you NOT know i was going to do that? sucker.
[QUOTE=EarthDragon;1181234]in the street there is no such thing as a sucker shot, your either ready or your not.[/QUOTE]
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
In other news, there’s no such thing as a groin shot, you either get kicked in the groin or you don’t.
[QUOTE=Brule;1181253]HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
In other news, there’s no such thing as a groin shot, you either get kicked in the groin or you don’t.:([/QUOTE]
I thot you were gonna say; ‘either you have a groin or you dont’ :eek:
Could go with that also.
Thailand!!
whats funny is when a guy is acting all tough and chest bumping and getting in your face talking smack and they dont expect to get smacked in the mouth…its like…dude…how did you NOT know i was going to do that? sucker.
cause he’s so intent on making you believe he is tougher than you. but a true sucker punch is always out of your line of site.
[QUOTE=hskwarrior;1181257]cause he’s so intent on making you believe he is tougher than you. but a true sucker punch is always out of your line of site.[/QUOTE]
like an uppercut when the guy is close enough to kiss 
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1180986]When someone said, “You only train for the sport. You are not train for the street.” What does he mean? How do you train the street situation? Go to a bar and pick up fights every might? How can you train for the street and not to have problem with the law?[/QUOTE]
In traditional kung fu, all of your training is for the street. Solo drills, partner drills, self defense techniques, bag work, footwork drills, sparring, fighting, San Shou, Shuai Chiao all are to prepare you for the uncertainty of the street.
I have told this story here before… A guy was beating his wife, I stepped in front of her so he could not hit her any more. He swung a right hook at me and I immediately blocked with my left claw and applied a right claw to his throat. He backed down from there.
I did what my training prepared me to do. What else can we do but, to practice the best we can for the possible situations that we may encounter.
ginosifu