Go to defend.net/deluxeforums and go to the JKD forum. Click on Jeet tec’s “MOVIE” thread to see the TKD vs. Kid movie. No still pictures this time. You be the judge. 
Ryu
here’s a link right to the movie page, it’s 6.22 megs.
http://horizontal.4t.com/0wnag3.html
you can tell without a doubt the TKD guy is a sport fighter. no follow through, he’ll kick and back off. the untrained guy…well…you can tell he’s untrained hahaha.
too many **** high kicks. looks like maybe 1 or 2 punches might have been thrown.
thanks for finding and posting this, ryu.
“street dude” is heading into trouble.
Luck. Let me add that I think “street dude” was trying for a groin shot. I can’t tell if TKDBoy was trying not to land them hard or just sux, the sport TKD guys I know tend to land hard.
Well now that “street dude” has established a rep for himself against TKD fighters I can’t wait to see his next match.:rolleyes:
I agree with Rogue that the “street dude” had his little plan as he tried it in the first sequence of the “fight”. The TKD guy should have taken notice of it and stop point fighting at the instant.He could have punched him at will but did not and was stepping back after every point attack. The little bast@rd was very lucky to fall into a Mc Dojang! 
By point-fighting rules the Tae Kwon Dude won.
Point-Karate is the only combat sport I know that you can win by being knocked out.
Badger
Originally posted by Badger
Point-Karate is the only combat sport I know that you can win by being knocked out.
That reminds me of an old friend of mine when I practiced Choy Li Fut:
“I knock the guy right in the mouth, blood everywhere, and he wins!”
Well, that video proves what I’ve always said: Never spar with an untrained individual: You’ll go easy on him, then he will hit you once, and he’ll go out saying that he beat you in a rude fight.
Or, at least, if you’re gonna spar with one, made him know that you’re not using full power.
He should’ve used some follow-through..well…maybe they didn’t teach him that at his McDOJANG
Or, just beat the living $hit out of him.
Beat the poo-poo outta him & say: “You Win!”
A very sad display of fighting skills. That’s a TKD black belt, no wonder people make fun of them…
well, that’s an unwarranted taekwondo black belt. there are entirely too many of them.
okay now that i have seen it
first of all the street guy who read from a book landed the winning blow,in my opinion. the TKD guy had alot of flash and dash and came in striking and kicking(both very inexperienced)
but i tip my hat to the street guy for landing the kick to the groin. there it is kids. kicking high is no good unless you have stunned the guy and you wanna finish him off hollywood style.
we see more technique on the TKD guys side. now all he needs to do is be a little more reserved,quit tkd and go take Hsing i classes and he will be a good martial artist one day.
Many respects,,,The Willow Sword
You get a blackbelt in every Happy Meal at McDojo’s.
good point Willow; the tkd kid is actually using techniques he’s learned (more than i can say for a lot of MA’s in a real fight). give him something real to learn and he’d win the rematch.
Street guy was hiding. Throwing up stuff–was lost. TKDer didn’t take it seriously–wasn’t trying to do any damage.
TKDer was playing. Streetguy was scared and couldn’t lift his leg any higher than groin level. But he was not trying for the groin shot. Merely scared. TKDer knew he could have hurt streetguy and was satisfied and didn’t try.
Morals:enough stuff hits the fan you might get hit; don’t seperate your thighs unless you mean it.
I don’t see Tae Kwon Do techniques as bad. It’s more at how one uses what one Knows.
in tkd point sparring you can win by knockout
American TKD is pathetic. I’m not supprised by that at all. The TKD blackbelt going down is a cliche.
the trouble is that most of them are skinny geeks to begin with. Their art isn’t that realistic and gives them the huge self esteem boost because they believe they can defend themselves.
I’m not that high in my art and the slightest knowlege of leg wrestling or infighting, is usually more than they can handle…if you have a few good angles and get to their back gate, they are done.
Originally posted by neito
in tkd point sparring you can win by knockout
Yea…by you(the winner) being knocked out!
Pathetic
People fight the way they train. Its pathetic to see someone land a kick, whatever it is, with their hands down and not even think to punch when in punching range. Then to back out and look to re-engage? You wonder why they get a bad wrap. If you want to do tournaments, more power to you. Just don’t tell me its real fighting. Both Street guy and TKD would get his a$$ handed to them by a real fighter. Street guy just got lucky this time.
For the record, the TKD that I do looks absolutly nothing like what the, cough, cough…, TKD black belt did in that movie.
attention stacey
you said:
“the trouble is that most of them are skinny geeks
to begin with.”
i am a skinny geek, and i take offense at that remark.
i am not a TKD guy and i have taken guys down
that were twice my size. i just know how to hit, thanks
to my teachers good training and my decent application
of mechanics. so its not the size of the man in the fight,
its the size of the fight in the man. dont forget that.
just because all of us arent super beefy, doesnt mean
we arent capable. would you like to hear me say that
i thought they both fought like girls in that clip?
anyways, it boils down the the singular person.
some people have it and some people dont.
there are guys i can beat with my training, and guys
with no training that can beat me. i have no problem
admitting this.
and what felipe says is absolutely dead on…
cross hands with a guy who has little training, and
you hold back a little… WHAM you get hit and all of
a sudden “hey dude, your kung fu sucks… i walked
all over you” OR…
WHAM he strikes, you block and cause him pain.
“hey dude! i thought your kung fu teaches you to
not hurt anyone? whats up with that?”
heres another one, i was at a club one time with
a guy i know who does wing chun (or one of those
derivatives) and we were both sober, by the way.
he was showing me a couple of things and well,
my perception is when a guy is going to show you
something, ya sorta take it for granted that he is
going to control himself some right? so i stick my
hands up like he showed, then he moved a little.
i think he expected me to block or something, which
i didnt because my expectation was on an informal
level.
he says: “so when i do -this-” and moves his hand
over my arm and says: “AWWW you shoulda BLOCKED!”
next thing you know he is telling me
about my reflexes being bad, and me not being sensitive
enough to deal with wing chun attacks.
another story–
a few weeks ago, i was playing grab-@ss with a
girlfriend of mine. she started to get a little out of control
and i wanted her to stop because it was no longer fun
for me.
(some women just cant understand the words “PLEASE STOP”)
so in order to protect myself (i am skinny remember? i
dont have brute strength) i had to grab her forehead and place
my index finger under her nose and press backwards until
she started to tighten up and stop flailing.
it earned me a night on the couch, but it saved my
private parts from getting squashed.