Ground ?
My egow kraw is undefeetable!
When you’r telling one of your little stories, here’s a idea; Have a point, it makes it so much more interesting for the reader.
Rolls, isn’t it funny you get “plunger raped” every night by your neighbors?
K. Mark Hoover
LOL! @ Tigerstyle.
K. Mark Hoover
huh?
ralek, who’s “flocking”? i’ve read your posts and they are mostly nonsense so I wasn’t gonna reply to this, but I don’t notice any kung fu guy on this thread “flocking” to learn BJJ. i think I’m the only kung fu cat who said he’d be interested in BJJ, if only to make my kung fu better.
say no to drugs man.
“…either you like reincarnation or the smell of carnations…”
- Cannibal Ox
Here’s my view. Almost every CMA has some type of horse stance. Almost every CMA has some type of front stance. Why shouldn’t every CMA have some type of guard or some type of mount? Modification and adaptation does not cheapen tradition, it enhances it.
Most actions of men can be explained by observing a pack of dogs. Not wild dogs, just neighborhood dogs who all scurry under the fence on the same night and set off together to reclaim a glimmer of the glory their species possessed before domestication.
erm isnt it usually the guy who feels threatened who allways wants to challenge others ?? erm maybe ?? you know like the guy who used to pick on people at school , when you gave him a dirty look he would shut up.
I think bjj guys are threatened by the fact that they keep on wanting to spar us and we aint bothered for shiat
what do bin laden and general custer have in common???
They’re both wondering where the fu(k all of those tomahawks are coming from. - donated by mojo
I agree BJJ is an excellent complement to stand up fighting. Since I have started (About 4 months now) I have really gained an appreciation for the style and how it has made me look at the complete picture a little more when it comes to fighting. But I’d still take a good KO to a tap out anyday. As for street effectiveness I would only go to the ground if I had to but I would not even think about taking it there.
“Life’s a great Adventure, Mate”
Jacko Jackson
Regarding taking it to the ground it is a personal preference…some peeps are just not willing to go toe to toe…they either don’t have the body structure or chin to last in standup…so they are adaptable to grappling. The thing about grappling is when u use grappling…most peeps will attempt to out grapple you but u having more experience will outgrapple them…and vice versa with striking. So personal preference is the deciding factor!
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There are just as many options for smaller individuals in ‘stand-up’ or ‘striking’ as there is in ‘groundfighting’ or ‘grappling.’
Ground,
I never, never, never want to be on the ground with a enemy - regardless of numbers.
strike!
So then what happens if you end up on the ground… you just give up and die?
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If ya ain’t got the skills, I will take you out!
If,
If for some god forsaken reason I end up on the ground, I will fight my opponents there until I can get back on my feet.
I didnt say I didnt know how to fight on the ground, just that I dont want to.
strike!
I never thought I’d see myself typing this but…
SifuAbel, you are dead on. Just because you don’t want to be there, you damn well better be able to defend yourself if you do.
Most actions of men can be explained by observing a pack of dogs. Not wild dogs, just neighborhood dogs who all scurry under the fence on the same night and set off together to reclaim a glimmer of the glory their species possessed before domestication.
Yen
Can you explain how you’d fight your way out from the ground? what techniques would you use to defend yourself?
I cant comprehend a serious martial artist who doesnt have the desire to have a balanced set of skills. I cant understand grapplers who dont achieve a basic level of proficiency in stand up, not strikers who dont do the same for ground fighting.
“You guys have obviously never done any real fighting if you are mocking spitting”
Spinning Backfist
Water Dragon
That’s not the “real” SifuAbel.
Every law enforcement officer I have talked to says that the easiest way for them to win a fight is to choke out the opponent.
I agree that some kung fu people feel threatened by BJJ. It’s not just kung fu people, but Karate, TKD, Judo. For some reason, boxers and kickboxers seem more open minded to BJJ. This is just MY experience.
BJJ is flawed, it has absolutely no value when you are attacked by more than one person. Also, it doesn’t teach defense against weapons.
It’s good in the ring, but there are many scenarios where it has no use on the street.
sigh
Where’s Art’s dead horse pic when you need it?
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=“-1”>quote:</font><HR>BJJ is flawed, it has absolutely no value when you are attacked by more than one person. Also, it doesn’t teach defense against weapons.
It’s good in the ring, but there are many scenarios where it has no use on the street.[/quote]
Oh but wait! Isn’t it the style, not the person that matters???