Hey all,
Anyone know about Teoul Moon kung fu?
http://www.teoulmoon.com/
There is a school near Pittsburgh but don’t know anything about this style. Any info/opinions would be appreciated!!
" mastering over 200 empty hand and weapons forms, from acrobatic Wu Shu sets to soft and powerful Chen Tai Chi."
Great … 200 forms … whippidy doo da … what about martial arts?
It’s a Korean blend of Shandong Long Fist, some Bagua, and Northern Mantis. Some people call it Sip Pal Gi, or Shipalgae, or Sip Pal Ki…however you want to pronounce it.
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Thanks Masterkiller for the info.
Is Yim the real deal? Would training in this system be training in legit and authentic chinese-style martial arts? I don’t care so much for wushu…
[QUOTE=wudangmountain;702277]Thanks Masterkiller for the info.
Is Yim the real deal? Would training in this system be training in legit and authentic chinese-style martial arts? I don’t care so much for wushu…[/QUOTE]
I don’t know anything about Yim except from his websites, so I have no idea about the quality of instruction. I have a pretty good idea about what the curriculum is like, though.
It is Chinese and not a TKD blend or anything like that. You’ll learn a mix of mantis sets and long fist sets, and since Yim studied with No Su Chun, there is probably a bagua influence in there as well.
Tan Tui is a big part of the system. You’ll probably spend the first few months only learning their version. Most of the Korean branches teach a 10 or 12 line version.
Steronius from this forum studies with Chun Dai Soung in New Orleans, and he has a similar curriculum. You might shoot him a PM and see what he thinks.
If you do decide to check them out, I’d be interested to hear what your impressions are.
Thanks again MK. Definitely no TKD at this school according to the website. Chen style tai chi is offered there. Seems like alot is offered…that is a warning sign for me…you know “jack of all trades…”
[QUOTE=wudangmountain;702473]Thanks again MK. Definitely no TKD at this school according to the website. Chen style tai chi is offered there. Seems like alot is offered…that is a warning sign for me…you know “jack of all trades…”[/QUOTE]
Well maybe go see the class and see if they hit each other or do drills at all.
Otherwise it’s just wushu.
[QUOTE=wudangmountain;702196]Hey all,
Anyone know about Teoul Moon kung fu?
http://www.teoulmoon.com/
There is a school near Pittsburgh but don’t know anything about this style. Any info/opinions would be appreciated!![/QUOTE]
I train in Teoul Moon Kung Fu. Please don’t let the name of the style fool you. Teoul Moon is a chinese martial art system that combines the Shaolin Five Animal System, Hung Gar, Preying Mantis (Tang Lang Quan), and Pa Kua (Ba Gua Zhang); and because it was developed in Korea, thus the Korean name of the sytle. The website you posted above pretty much explains a brief history of the style and what it teaches, but if you want, you can also visit my website at http://www.geocities.com/sholo86/teoulmoon.html and see what I have to say about Teoul Moon.
If you haven’t done so already, I suggest you visit the school and see if you like what Teoul Moon has to offer. I can tell you right now it did me good. I had the privilege of studying under GM Yim while I was stationed at Osan AB, SKorea in 2001 and will see him soon again when I return in December. Sabunim Nischalke (owner of the school you were asking about) was my instructor when I first started training in Teoul Moon. Mark’s a good guy and I’m sure he’ll answer any questions you might have with regards to Teoul Moon.
As you can see, we don’t have that many Teoul Moon schools in the US, but schools located outside the US that bears the name Teoul Moon are associated with and/or fall under GM Yim.
If you have any other questions about Teoul Moon Kung Fu, just let me know 
–Conrad–
Just stay away from Mark Gablowski (sp?). He was kicked out of the Teoul Moon association years ago… I remember him from when I was living in Omaha, NE. He “stole” information from our school and started presenting it as his own (which was really funny, since everyone in town except the newest, most ignorant newcomers knew he a) didn’t know the material previously, and b) could only have gotten it from one place.
Good luck. My teacher has a lot of respect for the Teoul Moon GM in Korea (they met a number of years back).
With all the videos on Youtube now you could probably start hundreds of martial arts ‘systems’. LOL
[QUOTE=lunghushan;704489]With all the videos on Youtube now you could probably start hundreds of martial arts ‘systems’. LOL[/QUOTE]
Jiu Tu Beh Quan?
[QUOTE=Wood Dragon;704493]Jiu Tu Beh Quan?[/QUOTE]
In some ways it’s not a bad thing. If you want to mess with CMA teachers heads, they say they have some secret form just go, “Oh, yeah, I saw a version of that on Youtube.” Wudang Taiji? Oh, yeah, that’s on Youtube. Baguaquan? Oh, yeah, that’s on youtube. 
YiLiQuan1, sholo86
What are some of your form names?
[QUOTE=MasterKiller;705076]YiLiQuan1, sholo86
What are some of your form names?[/QUOTE]
Because the style was developed in Korea, the names of the forms are in Korean terminology. I am putting down names as it is written in the syllabus given to me by GM Yim. Some of the forms are;
So Ho Yun - Young Tiger Form
Kum Kang Kwan - Shaolin Metal Form
Ma Fa Kwan - Plum FLower Fist
Huk Hokwan - Black Tiger
Here’s the link to the page that pretty much spells out our daily routine.
http://www.teoulmoon.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=18
or
http://www.teoulmoon.org/
and look around.
Thanks for asking
[QUOTE=MasterKiller;705076]YiLiQuan1, sholo86
What are some of your form names?[/QUOTE]
I’m not Teoul Moon… I’m a Yiliquan student (hence the name).
[QUOTE=sholo86;705263]Because the style was developed in Korea, the names of the forms are in Korean terminology. I am putting down names as it is written in the syllabus given to me by GM Yim. Some of the forms are;
So Ho Yun - Young Tiger Form
Kum Kang Kwan - Shaolin Metal Form
Ma Fa Kwan - Plum FLower Fist
Huk Hokwan - Black Tiger
Here’s the link to the page that pretty much spells out our daily routine.
http://www.teoulmoon.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=18
or
http://www.teoulmoon.org/
and look around.
Thanks for asking[/QUOTE]
Right. I sent you a Private Message with the korean names of some of my forms…
There are a few Korean-lineage schools operating in the U.S., and a lot of the forms cross-over (Little Tiger Swallow especially, what you call Young Tiger…).
What’s up with that gay logo?? Can you say Animal crackers in my soup.
Sholo86,
I thought the forms of Teoul Moon were strictly Teoul Moon, yet Master Killer states you share forums. So maybe Teoul Moon is not authentic but rather borrows from other styles? Not being antagonistic, just trying to engage in conversation.
Master Killer and Sholo86 could you give some insight??
Green Cloud…thanks so much for your helpful thoughts?! 
All of the Chinese kung fu systems in Korea share some similar forms. He has 3 or 4 of mine, but some I do not have, and vice versa.
Basically, 90% of the Chinese kung fu in and around Seoul is a blend of Shandong Long Fist and Northern Mantis, probably because of the influence of Lin Pin Zhang, Lee Duk-Kang, and Jiang Kyung Fang (or so it seems).
Those who also trace Lu Shui Tian (No Sue Chon) in their lineage have a Bagua influence as well.
There are 7 or 8 schools in the U.S. teaching similar systems, but none of them are identical. We all have a few forms the others do not.
All of the Chinese kung fu systems in Korea share some similar forms. He has 3 or 4 of mine, but some I do not have, and vice versa.
Basically, 90% of the Chinese kung fu in and around Seoul is a blend of Shandong Long Fist and Northern Mantis because of the influence of Lin Pin Zhang and Jiang Kyung Fang (or so it seems). Both of our systems head honchos studied directly under Lin Pin Zhang, so that probably accounts for the cross-over between my system and his…
Those who also trace Lu Shui Tian (No Sue Chon) in their lineage have a Bagua influence as well.
There are several schools in the U.S. teaching similar systems, but none of them are identical. We all have a few forms the others do not. At least that’s been my experience, anyway.
The thing that makes it difficult to connect the dots is that the Korean styles use Korean names for their forms, and often they get mistranslated from Chinese to Korean to English.
For example, the form Xiao Hu Yan Chuan (Little Tiger Swallow Fist) is pretty widespread, Yang Jwing Ming even has a video series on it. Sholo translates it as Young Tiger Form, and I’ve seen others call it Little Flying Tiger, etc…
Yue Family Fist (Yue Jia Chuan) is sometimes called Maternal Family Fist because the Korean A Ga Kwon has a couple of meanings…
Other popular forms like Da Fan Che Chuan aren’t particular to Korean styles, either.