hes too busy air bending for internet
I type with my chi.
[QUOTE=bawang;1087508]hes too busy air bending for internet[/QUOTE]
actually, in a way, his post epitomizes the whole point of this thread - meaning that when TCMA gets put under the microscope, there’s always someone who comes on and say “less computer, more training”; in fact, it’s really more like “less [fill in the blank], more training” - as if if one has the time to talk about TCMA (here or elsewhere), one is not training enough; it’s such rubbish, really;
im from same town as his bak siu lum grandaddy gu ru zhang. i dont even do bak siu lum and i can meet people he dreams of ass kissing. tellin people to train more like hes speshul.
by training he probably means do some gay ass form for 2 hours.
[QUOTE=taai gihk yahn;1087456]TCMA should be honest with itself first, and should from now on refer to itself as “Combat Yoga”;
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Its true. But what helps me is looking at “Kung Fu” as a whole set of curriculum. For example, Hsing-I for power, wing-chun for speed or trapping, ect.
But the point is, everyone will take what they will from a system. Some will develop in a way where they want to study other things to fill voids. Others will stick with one.
Bad training is simply bad training. True, there are sifu much more concerned with the position of their shrine than the affectiveness of what they teach, but ultimately I blame the student for staying. You have a brain. Look around the class.
instead of “build-a-bear” with all the parts, its “build-a-style” with all the diff menu choices…
im all for hybrids, but some would strongly disagree… of course not all hybrids are better, but they can be…
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1087464]When you tell a
- boxer that boxing is lacking throw, that boxer will agree with you.
- Judoka that Judo is lacking strike, that Judoka will agree with you.
When you tell a TCMA guy that his style doesn’t have this and that, he will argue you to death.
Why?[/QUOTE]
In arguing like this, the TCMA guy will be right and wrong. He will be right in that when looking at TCMAs as whole, one cannot really point and say that they are missing important aspects.
However, the TCMA guy will probably be wrong in that he is not really training his art or arts, the way they were meant to be trained. So yes, the chances are that he will be missing aspects from his style, but usually because his art is not being taught in its whole, just as it happens so often nowadays.
This is the other side of the coin as regards the point made earlier by someone, that one cannot survive financially by soleley teaching TCMAs as they were meant to be taught. I would go further and say that over 95% Kung fu teachers don’t even have that knowledge to share, even if they were able to survive financially. There are just too many unqualified “sifus” out there, unfortunately. :o
For example, how many people are training WC in all of its aspects? How many are training Chow Gar, Hsing I, Pak Mei and other profound arts beyond the superficial? Not many, I would say.
So, if you have an profound fighting art being taught in an incomplete and superficial way by most of the instructors, the result will as you correctly implied, a lot of insecure TCMA-ists telling us that they are not missing anything, even when they are. My only point here is that many times it is not the style that is missing certain aspects, but the instruction these people are getting.
Other times of course, one can correctly point out to weaknesses in certain styles.
[QUOTE=bawang;1087515]im from same town as his bak siu lum grandaddy gu ru zhang. i dont even do bak siu lum and i can meet people he dreams of ass kissing. tellin people to train more like hes speshul.
by training he probably means do some gay ass form for 2 hours.[/QUOTE]
You’ve mistaken me for someone else:D
[QUOTE=taai gihk yahn;1087507]Maybe missing point of internet forum?[/QUOTE]
I am reading here but training more:D Truthfully I am tired of the type casting and brand namings of martial art as we elevate one to put down another. Train the body to be strong, train the technique precise with the timing then call it what you will.
Best wishes to all here.
how about training to not send me passive aggresive private messages
all that fire bending got u guys all ornery
[QUOTE=Syn7;1087589]
im all for hybrids, but some would strongly disagree… of course not all hybrids are better, but they can be…[/QUOTE]
I don’t look at it as hybridization. I have 12 years of karate, about 5 of hung gar, wing chun and S. Mantis, and then about 6 of internal study… maybe I have’t mastered any. But I certainly have controlled, accurate, powerful striking. With a solid entering/shielding strategy/game plan.
I now have about 5 years of BJJ study. I’m very good at finishing and controlling from side control. I have good sweeps from guard and a good guard pass to get that position. I also like to double legs now. Great tool to have in the tool box. Powerful move.
After 4 years of collage followed by continued self educating and reading I can discuss science, sports, history pretty well but my best subject will always be literature. You usually have one that’s your thing.
Honestly, I feel like I take to BJJ very naturally. It comes easy to me. But it has over 20 years of training behind it. STructure. Mechanics. Position < ------- every style works with those. The better ones work with them similarly.
Another thing I like about BJJ is that its organized. I turn 37 in 4 weeks. In a year I think I can compete in the Master’s Age group internationally.
[QUOTE=MightyB;1086899]someone thinks standing makes them invincible? [/QUOTE]
- Running is better than walking.
- Walking is better than standing.
- Standing is better than sitting.
- Sitting is better than laying down.
- Laying down is better than “dead”.
When you move a tree, that tree will die. When you move a human body, that person will live longer. When you go to prison, you will have all the time in the world to train your “standing”. When you are free and out of jail, you should see the beautiful world and enjoy your life.
Ask yourself why you are doing martial arts.
When I started out it was for self-defense.
Then I became more interested in combat sports and competition.
Now I just want to compete at an amateur level while young.
The rest my life will be toward the preservation and evolution of Buk Sing CLF and hopefully, the entirety of Chinese martial arts.
I’m a very proud person and this is my heritage. I see the state of CMA and it makes me sad and while I won’t ever teach professionally, this is literally “a part of my life.” It’s just as important to me as any other education.
Through fighting you realize that becoming “the best” is such a silly statement. Even if you have every physical gift in the world one day old age will get the best of you. And then the young hungry lions will still murder you.
But this for me is beyond learning combat science. This is about saving whatever face TCMA has left, as much as I can do. It’s probably not much but seems that most people don’t really care.
No offense but if you are not Chinese then you shouldn’t feel any obligation to do anything great for “TCMA.” If you do, for example Brenden Tunks is someone I have a lot of respect for, because he is really keeping the spirit of TCMA alive and also evolving it further. He is not Chinese yet he is keeping our face and turning this sordid state around, little by little. For me is beyond what most people care for. For me it’s national pride, history, and culture.
[QUOTE=bawang;1087602]how about training to not send me passive aggresive private messages
all that fire bending got u guys all ornery[/QUOTE]
You are a ray of sunshine buddy.
Bwaaaahhaha!
[QUOTE=Violent Designs;1087616]
No offense but if you are not Chinese then you shouldn’t feel any obligation to do anything great for “TCMA.” If you do, for example Brenden Tunks is someone I have a lot of respect for, because he is really keeping the spirit of TCMA alive and also evolving it further. He is not Chinese yet he is keeping our face and turning this sordid state around, little by little. For me is beyond what most people care for. For me it’s national pride, history, and culture.[/QUOTE]
brendon tunks got no ego and his students are fighters. this guy has more spirit and heart than a lot of chinese people.
[QUOTE=Violent Designs;1087616]No offense but if you are not Chinese then you shouldn’t feel any obligation to do anything great for “TCMA.” [/QUOTE]
for a lot of people its not obligation. its a need. people cling to something because they feel empty . if its not kung fu it would be something else
[QUOTE=Violent Designs;1087616]No offense but if you are not Chinese then you shouldn’t feel any obligation to do anything great for “TCMA.” [/QUOTE]
for a lot of people its not obligation. they cling to kung fu because their life is empty. for others its opportunism because kung fu teacher is an easy job.
Bawang has spoken.
No offense but if you are not Chinese then you shouldn’t feel any obligation to do anything great for “TCMA.” If you do, for example Brenden Tunks is someone I have a lot of respect for, because he is really keeping the spirit of TCMA alive and also evolving it further. He is not Chinese yet he is keeping our face and turning this sordid state around, little by little. For me is beyond what most people care for. For me it’s national pride, history, and culture.
Personally it has more to do with my system and my teacher than with defending the honor of TCMA. Hell I don’t give a rat’s fu**ck about any other Pai Lum lineage to he honest or defending the honor of the Chinese. What I do care about is taking the system my instructor taught me and seeing it evolve and improve, which all arts should strive to do, not just TCMA. Of course if you listen to other, lesser forum members on here they will tell you the Chinese did everything right and nothing wrong, and all systems are perfect.:rolleyes:
But most of us with an inkling of knowledge know that all things that do not evolve or improve stay stagnant and diseased like a puddle of water instead of a flowing stream. Be like flowing water my friend!
[QUOTE=Lebaufist;1087664]Bawang has spoken.[/QUOTE]
…with the voice of authority that any college student has… :rolleyes: lol
no offense bawang, but…lol
TCMA has many approaches.
Some people do it with a real down to earth approach and work at it and yes, for the rest of their lives. It’s something to do while you travel around the sun, like anything else.
Some people stick to the qigong aspect only.
Some people stick to the forms and incessant bowing to master with every word spoken.
Some people take from it what they will and work it into the training they do and so on and so forth.
There is no such thing as “one” kung fu. Or one tcma approach or even A tcma approach.
When you start shoving things into pigeon holes, then you can expect to find them there and understand them from that perspective.
the truth about any art form is that you only do it to pass time. In 100 years you will likely be unknown, in 1000 years no one is remembered except for the vaguest reminders and then, only for the greatly noted ones apparently.
so I wouldn’t worry about being a master or having others view you as such. If you can always keep your humanity at the front of everything else, you’ll be fine and none of your pursuits will suffer from that.
[QUOTE=Iron_Eagle_76;1087690]Personally it has more to do with my system and my teacher than with defending the honor of TCMA. Hell I don’t give a rat’s fu**ck about any other Pai Lum lineage to he honest or defending the honor of the Chinese. What I do care about is taking the system my instructor taught me and seeing it evolve and improve, which all arts should strive to do, not just TCMA. Of course if you listen to other, lesser forum members on here they will tell you the Chinese did everything right and nothing wrong, and all systems are perfect.:rolleyes:
But most of us with an inkling of knowledge know that all things that do not evolve or improve stay stagnant and diseased like a puddle of water instead of a flowing stream. Be like flowing water my friend!:p[/QUOTE]
I hear ya. In that regard you ARE doing what many Chinese do not have the guts to do (lose face yadda yadda).
Because you DON’T have that ethnic connection.
For those like me who have that it was quite difficult to come to face with reality and finally admit not all was gravy. But what a breathe of fresh air when I finally did!!!