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Badger
BJJ is Superior to Mullets!
Could you give the gist of the article, for those one or two of us on the board who don’t speak norweigan?
I am the Grand Ultimate Silk Pyjama
I dunno what their saying…
just click on the video 
Badger
BJJ is Superior to Mullets!G
D’oh! Didn’t see the video link before, just the pictures - I was like ‘where’s the jump kick?’
I am the Grand Ultimate Silk Pyjama
Disgusting
Stuff like that makes me sick.
Never let a bunch of punks like that surround you..plow through em first.
However, that guy telegraphed his punch soo much it wasn’t funny…he did smash right through his point of contact though jesus..his fist looked like it came out the other end. The rest was unimpressive…the guy was shaky and he got ragged on. The jump kick was well placed as it occured right as he was dazed and getting up..all it seemed to do is knock him down though..the wild kicks to the head did the rest. I find that behaviour offensive though..those punks all deserve to have their limbs smashed and broken. Hit a guy once..its enough in those situations. Why the idiot in the white shirt was arguing that way in the first place is another question.
Oh well…chalk that one up to poor street smarts.
Michael Panzerotti
Taijutsu Nobody from the Great White North..
Seriously - as soon as the black guy turned around to signal his buddies to come over, that’s your signal to leave!
I am the Grand Ultimate Silk Pyjama
Would this be considered a Racial crime?
All the white guy has to do is get a bunch of other white guys to act all crazy,riot,burn buildings,endanger other people & he will be an instant millionaire.
Badger
3 :rolleyes:
BJJ is Superior to Mullets!G
the article says mostly about the movie, detailed. Like, the victim and the somali dude had an argument over something like, white dude suposedly had hit some guy with a shovel. uhmmm, yeah and the author of the article called that jump kick a “karate kick”. I dont think that they had much or any skills in martial art.
then it says what happens to the victim, how much money he gets and so on..
nothing interesting, good movie thought. I think he looks at the other dude when he gets hit.
~K~
“maybe not in combat.. but think of the chicks man, the chicks!” – someone on the subject of back-flips in combat –
Does the article say if the guy manages to get pampered by the nice azz blond girl at the end of the vid’?
there’s a good side to everything hehehehehehe
If you’re looking at the technique you’re missing the important parts…
Good multi-man op by the black dudes, 12 seconds from the first hit to the last. Got him surrounded, distracted and let him have it. With WB1 down WB2 was easy pickins. Black Dude 1’s second attack was pretty good.
Things white boy 1 did wrong, hands in pockets, letting himself be distracted and not staying in motion are just a few. WB2 as backup was totally useless. He should have been close and to the blind side of one of the BDs ready to take him down hard.
Even with our superior techniques most here would have ended up in the same place as the White Boy did after the first hit.
Also who was that one guy hitting that just kind of shows up, hits someone and walks away?
Signed,
Rogue, Soke and Senior Grandmaster of Southeast American Brazillian Bagua Combat Chi jitsu Kempo Karate Do and Choral Society.
The only tactical principle which is not subject to change; it is, “To use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wounds, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time."
Now I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country.
[This message was edited by rogue on 11-13-01 at 09:09 AM.]
the video was cool, what was on it was like , okay. a group of inexperienced yobs and a guy who didnt have a clue , what does this teach us again.
Streetfights are a lot easier than sparring with someone who could kill an elephant with a kick.
what do bin laden and general custer have in common???
They’re both wondering where the fu(k all of those tomahawks are coming from. - donated by mojo
Bystanders and Gangstaz yeaaaaaaa boiiiii’!
actually there is a WB3 that gets overwhelmed when helping his pal..he does a decent job and looks sturdy. WB2 is a complete failure and should get his head checked. From teh looks of it there are 3 WBs and 5 BBs. There are also a whole bunch of bystanders… the looking syndrome. Man, that guy must have hurt when he got tagged in thehead…i always train to cover when i am down. Even when i don’t see what is coming, i use a Russian technique where i do a sweep of my face and back of head as i regain balance and get to my feet. I’m always moving and stay close to the target so i can take the legs or knees and force the guy to hit close range.
But that means little…it already happened and i think its cool that we find stuff like this to write about. You really do see where standing grappling plays a role here though eh?(please excuse grammar and spelling..i’m on a conference call :-))
Michael Panzerotti
Taijutsu Nobody from the Great White North..
actually the video teaches a lot.
Even though it angers me.
It is a great example of the mistakes someone can make right before an assault.
First, I never stand that close to someone unless I’m going to hit them first and hard. You never want to let a person come into your personal space.
second, NEVER let other people approach you like that! The guy stood and let two other assaulters come right into his space, and stay there. He never moved himself from harm.
Third he was not aware of his attackers. His attention was constantly diverted as he “talked” with them one at a time. The assaulter’s very telegraphic punch could not be stopped because of the attention diversion.
It is obvious that the victim was not a fighter at all, and to be honest, one of the things that made me cringe was the fact that the black assaulter’s tactics look like some of the stuff I train (i.e. throw to the ground, kick to the head, etc) makes me feel like a thug 
But this is a great example of how street awareness is the thing that helps and seperates you from the victims. It is NOT about technique and martial arts. It’s how your awareness can serve to help you use them.
Ryu
“One who takes pride in shallow knowledge or understanding is like a monkey who delights in adorning itself with garbage.”
Important question
How, when he calls his mates down, do you leave, without either insulting him (i don’t mean that the way it sounds, without accusing him of foul play and looking like a paranoid freak), or having a chase on in the first place? He shouldn’t have been that close to him in the first place.
But anyway please someone answer the question.
How would you have handled it, when the 3 geezers come over? You can’t just back off, they did a good job of makin it look casual. But running away straight away would be a difficult thing to do - harder than you all make out.
All i wanted was some RICE CAKES! Now? WE MUST BATTLE.
The hard thing here is that in the video there was no sound…so I couldn’t hear what was being said, etc.
You are absolutely right in saying he shouldn’t have been that close in the first place.
Keeping your distance from people is not necessarily seen as a “weakness” from criminals.
If the man saw the two guys coming to him, he could have backed up (the black guy was not looking at him at that time), and done so with a firm, but none threatening command that he didn’t want them that close. If they persisted in coming to him (most people don’t want to “fight” someone who’s going to fight back, they want him to lay on the floor and cowar like he did), the man could attack the lead black guy FIRST and with surprise to buy him some time to immediately leave the area, get to the bystandards, etc.
The whole fight might have been avoided if the man did indeed back up, firmly let them know that if they do attack he’ll be ready, and get to a place where there is more people all around him. (think of how a cat backs up when it’s threatened…it’s ready to claw your damn eyes out if need be) Backing up scared and shivering is one thing…but backing up with firmness and a confident presence is another.
If the black guy gets right in my face like that, he’s getting a surprise headbutt, and I’ll do exactly to him what he did to that guy. Don’t let people get close to you like that, unless you are 100% sure you’re going to drop them.
Notice how the victim even looks at his watch while talking… His awareness is not there.
Ryu
“One who takes pride in shallow knowledge or understanding is like a monkey who delights in adorning itself with garbage.”
Also,
I’d rather be a paranoid freak to someone I’ll never see again, then be gang beaten by 5 guys.
Ryu
“One who takes pride in shallow knowledge or understanding is like a monkey who delights in adorning itself with garbage.”
“If they persisted in coming to him (most people don’t want to “fight” someone who’s going to fight back, they want him to lay on the floor and cowar like he did), the man could attack the lead black guy FIRST and with surprise to buy him some time to immediately leave the area, get to the bystandards, etc.”
But they “tricked” him, by pretending to come over in a non threatening manner. You would look like you’re over reacting, although without sound you can’t tell this.
Backing off “with confidence” is not an easy thing to do. In situations like this where i’ve been out numbered, i’ve struck first, and it would always be like i’ve over reacted. You can’t just start smashin up the first guy, you don’t want to start **** with someone who has friends over there.
Backing up confidently is easier said than done - how do you do that?
(and yes, why didnt’ he just headbutt or knee him in the balls in the first place? he mighta regretted it if the white guy had done it to him first. but if you look, you can see the white guy is TRYING to act hard, but is outta his element, he’s shitting his pants. from being around a lot of crime, you can tell who is hard, and who is just fronting hard. the black dudes have done this before)
All i wanted was some RICE CAKES! Now? WE MUST BATTLE.
i can’t believe there hasn’t been more comments on this thread for heavens sake. it’s certainly made me want to train, and that’s what i’m going to do right now.
maybe everyone who’s never been in a fight has **** their pants? 
All i wanted was some RICE CAKES! Now? WE MUST BATTLE.
I agree with you completely.
But if the guy does not know these guys at all, then I don’t care if I look like I’m over reacting. Backing up “confidently” is a matter of how much confidence you have I suppose
and I’m not talking about running away, I’m talking about making sure YOU have your personal space that no one is allowed to come into. I don’t care if I don’t seem “polite” or “over reacintg” if I don’t know these guys.
Now if he DID know them, you have to look at other warning signs in the group. First, no one has to be that close to talk to you. He can say what he has to say five feet away from you. Second, the black guy is figity, always looking around, seeing where his boys are, etc. Warnign sign number two.
Calling his friends over there is another sign.
Why does he need his friends to be that close to you as well?? Not necessary. Even if you know them.
That’s my experience. I want to guess that the guy does NOT know these people..or just met them.
And in that case, the warning signs are twice as potent.
It’s okay to be “scared” in a confrontation, but your body language has to show that really do NOT want any trouble, and if there is some, you will put up the biggest fight possible to stop it.
Criminals generally don’t want to work that hard…
Ryu
“One who takes pride in shallow knowledge or understanding is like a monkey who delights in adorning itself with garbage.”
LOL! Well I hope they haven’t! 
I’ve seen this stuff all before. It’s nothing new to me. I know how fights start, and end.
I’ve been in a few. To me, this just re enforces what I already know.
Training technique won’t necessarily help you here.
You’ve got to study criminal psychology, body language, fight statistics, and police training, etc.
Good luck, and take care,
Ryu
“One who takes pride in shallow knowledge or understanding is like a monkey who delights in adorning itself with garbage.”