Stories about your Sifu's streetfighting successes?

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Hi everyone,

I think everyone loves hearing stories like this.

Personally I never hung out with my Sifu after
classes, but other classmates of mine did, and were able to see him step in and help people
in distress, or handle personal attacks in bars
and such.

One time, according to my kung fu brother, they
were in a bar and these 4 guys started attacking
a good friend of my Sifu.
My Sifu stepped in and within seconds all the
bad guys were on the floor either knocked out,
or hurt badly enough that they told him they had enough and would leave now.

Another time, he was with another one of my
kung fu brothers walking down into the subway.
When 3 adult punks came running down the stairs
and deliberately pushed an old lady out of the way
and down the stairs in an attempt to catch
the subway car.
Well, they didn’t make the subway car, and my Sifu
went up to them and started giving them heck for
hurting this poor old lady just for a subway car; what were they thinking? Well, they weren’t in
a state of mind to be apologetic, and the leader
made an effort to punch my teacher.
My Sifu dropped him like a bad habit and the 2 others as they tried to hit him as well.
When the police showed up, he was cleared because a lot of bystanders had witnessed the fact that these pricks were the cause of all this violence.

Another time, (he lived in a really bad neighborhood) he told me that he got into an altercation with 7 guys, and he knew it was better to run instead of fight (he wasn’t stupid). He lost them all, but over the next week, he tracked each one of them down and fought them one on one; beating the stuffing out of each one.

The only time I ever witnessed any scuffles involving my Sifu was during class time.

Sometimes people with bad attitudes or alterior
motives would come in and participate in classes, and end up being intentionally rough with juniors.
My Sifu would innocently ask to train with them in the drills to see if they would continue being pricks. The ones that did got put in pecking order
really quickly. He wouldn’t cause them to bleed or knock them out as he was known to do in streetfights, but he would roll punch them really hard in the chest, and pak sao them viciously on the arms. Then he would throw them out physically.

Well enough of my stories ,
what stories would you guys/gals like
to share!!!

“Kick his ass, Sea-Bass!” - Dumb and Dumber

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My Sigung’s kung fu

Once my Sigung was in town and out carousing with some of my older brothers.
One of my sihing ended up in some altercation that seemed like it was going to escalate into an actual fight.
Some large student jock guy had taken issue with my sihing and was gesturing with an unlit cigartte in his hand.
After a few minutes of **** talking there was a moment of tense silence. It was looking like the guy was going to take a swing at my sihing. my Sigung stood up and walked over to the guy. THe rest of my brothers were really getting nervous at this point.
My sigung stepped into the space between the big guy and my sihing, took out his lighter and stared at the guy. he lit the guys cigarette.
The guy looked at my sigung for another second, and walked away.
I thought that was some good kung fu.

My Sifu and Sigung have been in fights, but they dont talk abotu them, or they do very rarely.

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Hello guys

WCFighter, is your school in Toronto? I know there’s a William Cheung tradition school at College and Yonge in Toronto

My teacher rarely ever fought, he fought a boxer when he was younger and beat him up pretty bad and some punks who tried to rob him, but the best fight he was in, is some big secret nobody’s supposed to know about

There used to be a famous wing chun fighter in Hong Kong who was undefeated in numerous challenge fights who is now desceased, but he went against my teacher before and lost. Two of my teachers students and two-three of the other sifus students were present at the time. My sifus basement was totally demolished

My sifu told his students that were present to tell nobody what had happened but there’s no such thing as a secret as the story is still circulating to this day. I heard about it from my dad way back but my wing chun brothers now have heard of this also

I would have given anything to see that fight and I can’t even ask my sifu for details since I’m not supposed to know about it

But to be fair to the other sifu who lost, his famous days were in the past and he was two years older than my sifu when this occured, as well as the fact that he was a heavy smoker and drinker at the time this happened

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Hi EmptyCup !

Cool story.

Yes our school is on 1 Wood Street, one street
North of Yonge & College, and on the East side of
Yonge Street.

My Sifu was certified as an “Sifu” (Level 10) in
William Cheung’s Traditional Wing Chun Kung Fu
system in 1994, but later chose not to participate in the business franchise end of it. As a result,
the WWCKFA does not list his name as being a current member of the WWCKFA. He respects William Cheung very much, and teaches us what he knows.

After a death in his family last summer, my Sifu
stopped teaching Wing Chun, and moved away.

Before this happened however, he had managed to
bring a few of his longtime students to the
instructor level. We have kept the school open
for business so that we can have a place to train.

Life (and training) goes on!

“Kick his ass, Sea-Bass!” - Dumb and Dumber

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WCFighter

what was your sifus name?

so who runs your club now? the students, or your teacher still? or is it just a “gathering” club now instead of a school per se…

i don’t like the politics around william cheung and the whole traditional versus modified debate with the VT Association, but I respect him for his skills. I’ve heard many stories about his fighting abilities when he was in his prime from people who knew him in Australia and Hong Kong. My teacher said he had great hands during the Yip Man days

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EmptyCup

Our Sifu’s name was Sean O’Neil.

Like I stated in my last post, his instructors
are running the school.

The school is open for business; We teach Traditional Wing Chun Kung Fu as we were taught
by Sifu Sean O’Neil, but the school is not affiliated with the WWCKFA.

“Kick his ass, Sea-Bass!” - Dumb and Dumber

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WCFighter

Basically the same story with my Sifu with William Cheung. Sifu was the President or Vice-President of the Association and left. Sifu still teaches Traditional Wing Chun, but has added/changed a few things I believe. As I have stated in a previous post, the Wing Chun that is being taught now is different from what Sifu Cheung taught in the 80’s. I’ve been told this and have read this from his Sifu’s from the 80’s. Have you had any experience with this? How long have you been training?

John

Have little and gain;
Have much and be confused.

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empty cup:
"There used to be a famous wing chun fighter in Hong Kong who was undefeated in numerous challenge fights who is now desceased, but he went against my teacher before and lost. "
i dont think its in the interest of politics to say on the internet that your sifu beat up this other sifu without saying who it is. if you cant talk about it dont. why **** alot of people off with leaveing it open so that it could be any of the masters under yip man. its easy to say stuff without haveing to back it up with anything to back it up. the amount of crap that comes out of peoples mouth is austounding so why should we beleive that this is any differrent. we dont even know who your sifu is, so why should we beleive you.
my point is it is very easy to say my sifu beat up a really famous ving tsun sifu but i cant tell you who it is. my teacher never told me but other students did. you look at the emin boztepe and william cheung thing. both tell everyone that they won. and that was on video. people interept things the way they want. :rolleyes:

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So far my vote goes for Owens Sigung

Hello,

You know I find it interesting when people talk about how many fights or how tough their Sifu/Sigung/Sihings are. Kinda makes wonder about the motivation behind the art

So far, Owens example seems like the mark of a true master. He was obviously confident enough in his ability to “NOT FIGHT”. Instead he defused the situation and everyone went about their business. IMO, this is someone worth training under.

I feel one should fight in defense of ones family and others. I do not feel one should fight for fightings sake. I used to like to fight, but I think I grew up Although in some ways I am still a child :rolleyes: at least according to my wife.

Peace,

Dave

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benny

The post asked for stories about people’s sifus in fights. I answered with a story of my own and it is precisely in the interest of politics that I didn’t name the other sifu. It’s just a story and people who knew the other sifu would know who I’m talking about based on some of the information contained within…if you don’t then it’s not your sifu or one you knew. You don’t have to believe anything I tell you, you’re entitled not to, but this is my story, take it or leave it.

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“My sifu told his students that were present to tell nobody what had happened”

if it was in the interest of politics and you actually listened to what your sifu said then you would not have put it on the net anyway. Oh the guy asked so i had to tell him is a three yr olds excuse.
i know it isnt my lineage but that is not the point. there is enough s$%^t about people beating this guy and that without putting stuff up that doesnt tell who any of the people are it just makes vague surgestions about every person that learnt off yip man that has died.

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i guess it’s your right to correct me then dad :rolleyes:

i deeply apologize that you took offense at my post and will ask your permission from now on before i say what i want…after all it isn’t a free country, Canada.

I hope you’ll forgive me and please put me in my place whenever you feel like from now on…really, i’m serious!

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dont worry i will

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Empty Cup,

Secret fight, don’t bullshit us pal, do you really think that something like that would remain a secret for long? It seems strange that these defeats become known once the man is dead. Those that feed off another’s reputation do so because they can’t make a reputation of their own.

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street fight success?

A street fight is by no means a success. Why insult your sifu by advertising it on the net?

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Owen

your post rocked

As to the streer fighting, dunno, my teacher has this large scar in his face. DOn’t have a clue where it comes from, it could be by a fight, but for the same it could have been made by him falling from his bike I mean I really don’t know, I only had 1 lesson and wasn’t really going to ask him something likz “So dude, when you gonne tell us where you got that l33t scar from ?”

And to the guys ******* up this topic, please don’t I like to hear stories

Wing Chun is h o l l y

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Whipping Hand,

I understand your statement about winning a street fight , not being a success; because utlimately it is better not to fight if you can avoid it.

But I do not agree with your entire statement.

I do not consider it as an insult to my Sifu if I advertise the fact that he can take care of himself very well OUTSIDE THE SCHOOL IN REAL SITUATIONS.

I would rather train with someone who is known to handle himself well in real life combat situations ( or full contact tournaments)
rather than with someone who has never tested his skills outside his school.

I think it is human nature to seek out teachers with solid knowledge in Theory AND Application; rather than seek out teachers with just solid knowledge in Theory.

That’s my opinion anyway.

Do you consider it an insult to Yip Man, Bruce Lee, Wong Shong Leung, William Cheung, Leung Ting,
Emin Boztepe, etc when their students speak of the Legendary fights they had on the street when they APPLIED their Wing Chun?

I don’t think its insulting!

:rolleyes:

“Kick his ass, Sea-Bass!” - Dumb and Dumber

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Popsider

If it’s true how can it be bull? That makes no sense. Can’t famous fighters meet defeat? Or are they invincible…btw, this happened while he was living and he was alive for long after while this was circulating. It was mostly his students who spread the story and I’m sure if you asked him if he were alive today, he’d tell you the story since he was one who wouldn’t feel a need to deny the truth because of a hurt ego. Unlike others out there…

But since he’s dead, you all are going to say I can say whatever I want. But you know what? You don’t know anything and it’s a shame people have to always go looking for something to pick on…

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Basically you shouldn’t implicate people in your story, either have the bollocks to name them or don’t hint at it.

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WCFighter

E-mail me John.Styrnol@hill.af.mil

John

Have little and gain;
Have much and be confused.