[QUOTE=lunghushan;726775]
The thing that I was doing for a while was going to TKD places and telling them they just do Shotokan. Their reactions were pretty funny, “No, this is an ANCIENT korean martial art more than 3000 years old.” Right…
Then point them to the articles about how their founder was a Shotokan BB, and how similar their katas are to Shotokan, and watch the looks on their faces.[/QUOTE]
Wow. Now THAT seems like a VERY productive use of time. I bet you showed them, huh? Maybe we’ll make a badge for you, TKD-K (TKD-Killer) and you can take it upon yourself to visit schools all over the country and tell everyone all the things YOU think they should know about their martial arts, their training, gear, etc., as it appears you fancy yourself such an expert.
Neil/Lunghushan and whatever your other names are, you are truly an angry and bitter individual. I read your posts, and rarely, rarely, do you even try to offer any meaningful contributions to this forum. It appears from your posts, that you don’t even study MA (anymore at least). Why do you bother? LOL
Maybe Santa will bring you a little cheer this year and you will stop being such a Grinch.
get the gloves at the very least
i’ve always found gloves are the one area where trying to save a few dollars can really make a big difference (in a negative way).
Those mma gloves are about the best in the business for allowing you to transfer a good amount of force without cutting your partner to ribbons.
I’ve never been cut not wearing headgear & personally don’t like it much.
having a tub of vaseline on hand to prevent cuts to the forehead, eyebrows, and nose should be enough.
shin guards are helpful if you’re putting a lot of shin into your kicks and/or blocking with your shins a lot. I’m not sure you’d be doing this a whole lot, as i believe hung gar is more about the sidekick.
i would recommend checking w/ your school prior to buying any type of sparring gear as they may or may not have any requirements on gear selection or check out what other people in your sparring class are wearing. i know at our school they do not allow the mma type gloves that are fingerless. alot of gear out there & it will basically end up w/ what you like & don’t like. alot of trial & error in figuring out what will work for you & your style of sparring. i originally purchased a set of gear by sparmaster & as time went on, now my stuff is hodge podged together, as i have changed shin guards, hand protection, etc… as i have found my personnal preferences based upon my style.
oh… by the way don’t forget to buy a groin protector & a mouth guard, it will save you alot of grief & not to mention pain…
[QUOTE=Pork Chop;726841]get the gloves at the very least
i’ve always found gloves are the one area where trying to save a few dollars can really make a big difference (in a negative way).
Those mma gloves are about the best in the business for allowing you to transfer a good amount of force without cutting your partner to ribbons.
shin guards are helpful if you’re putting a lot of shin into your kicks and/or blocking with your shins a lot. I’m not sure you’d be doing this a whole lot, as i believe hung gar is more about the sidekick.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I definitely throw more side kicks than anything else.
Now the kim pacific for only +10 dollars I can upgrade from vinyl to leather which is apparently more durable. Also the kimpacific doesn’t have the disclaimer “not for full contact” or whatever, so I was thinking of just buying two leather sets of theirs, and once I get more money I’d probably buy some head or shin gear. I’d say our sparring isn’t rough enough though to need body gear, and it’s borderline needing head gear.
Lama Pai Sifu: I agree it isn’t the coolest thing going from place to place trying to make fools out of people, but attacking him you can’t expect to be anymore productive than he was in the past.
Lama Pai Sifu: I agree it isn’t the coolest thing going from place to place trying to make fools out of people, but attacking him you can’t expect to be anymore productive than he was in the past.[/QUOTE]
You are right. I am not really trying to attack him, although I have been attacked BY him in the past. I’m just really hoping that maybe, just maybe, he’ll read something and see that from time to time, he acts like a (insert adjective here).
He probably has some good things that he can add to these posts, but he has continually trolled (under more than one name) and called myself and many others names, and attempted to make fun of their respective styles. He disappears for a bit, then starts posting 10+ times a day, and 90% of the time, he’s just acting like a ‘tard.’ We had a good thread about lineage going, but it got locked when he started with his antics.
Trolls, or troll-like behavior is just baaaad for the forums.
[QUOTE=Lama Pai Sifu;726915]Happy Holidays to all![/QUOTE]
Happy holidays to you too!
Also Monkey King, our school isn’t kean on sparring equipment because (I probably already said this) our sifu emphasis us having enough control to just barely touch the skin or cloth and still pull back. It’s one thing to be able to land a strike, it’s another to decide how much force you put into it.
i still find it funny that people wear shin guards . Shins are easy to condition. Rather spend your money on gloves and maybe head gear. Or get two different types of gloves. MMA gloves and boxing gloves. this way, you can get the feel for both types.
Now the kim pacific for only +10 dollars I can upgrade from vinyl to leather which is apparently more durable. Also the kimpacific doesn’t have the disclaimer “not for full contact” or whatever, so I was thinking of just buying two leather sets of theirs, and once I get more money I’d probably buy some head or shin gear. I’d say our sparring isn’t rough enough though to need body gear, and it’s borderline needing head gear.
Lama Pai Sifu: I agree it isn’t the coolest thing going from place to place trying to make fools out of people, but attacking him you can’t expect to be anymore productive than he was in the past.[/QUOTE]
Actually in a school a long time ago they had us buy those same Kim Pacific gloves (which is why I mention it) and they seemed to do just fine for sparring even with pretty hard contact, but I didn’t use them for more than 6 months.
Lama Pie whatever … LOL I went to a lot of schools, trying to find something decent, and TKD is, well, let’s just say … SAD … so when they pulled out the TKD is so great, TKD is the best, TKD is 3000 years old, TKD’s round kicks can kill anybody, that’s when I broke out the Shotokan.
But it’s okay. Obviously you are the greatest. LOL
[QUOTE=lunghushan;726920]Actually in a school a long time ago they had us buy those same Kim Pacific gloves (which is why I mention it) and they seemed to do just fine for sparring even with pretty hard contact, but I didn’t use them for more than 6 months.
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they used to use those type of gloves in the Kuoshu association down here. Not a good idea since they used those head gears with the mask on. Your front knuckes are exposed and many fighters had serious injuries and cuts to their hands as a result of the limited protection.
But seriously, if you’re not going to make contact, is it really needed?
[QUOTE=Eddie;726919]sorry, I didnt read your post properly. Only now saw what you said about head gear and body gear.
If your school doesnt allow full contact, why do you want protective gear? Spend your mopney on somehting like the San Da dvds pwerhaps? ;)[/QUOTE]
It’s not that they don’t allow it, no one really does it often (occasionally) , but it’s outside of school with other friends that I spar and that’s where I’ll be using them.
Also Lungshushan was there any reason you didn’t them for another 6 months? Or you just never really picked 'em up?
[QUOTE=Eddie;726923]they used to use those type of gloves in the Kuoshu association down here. Not a good idea since they used those head gears with the mask on. Your front knuckes are exposed and many fighters had serious injuries and cuts to their hands as a result of the limited protection.
But seriously, if you’re not going to make contact, is it really needed?[/QUOTE]
We used a slightly older model of that version for karate without any head gear or mouth guards, just cups and foot pads.
I never had any problems with the cuts but we didn’t have a mask. Your front knuckles are exposed so of course you have to be a little careful, but if you make a fist, that pulls them back.
If you get sloppy, yeah, you could get hurt but you have to keep in mind that the glove isn’t 100% protection anyway. You also still can’t go all out or you’ll hurt your partner.
We also used them in harder contact tournament sparring, with no problems. But again, no masks.
[QUOTE=syn;726924]It’s not that they don’t allow it, no one really does it often (occasionally) , but it’s outside of school with other friends that I spar and that’s where I’ll be using them.
Also Lungshushan was there any reason you didn’t them for another 6 months? Or you just never really picked 'em up?[/QUOTE]
I bought them for that school, and for sparring at that school. I still have 'em (I’ve got one on right now). When I moved from that area after about 6 months, I didn’t use them.
I think I might have used them a couple of times since, just for random sparring, like I think I brought them to some local Shotokan classes, but you know, most schools have their own type of gear.
The thing I really like about these gloves is the backfist protection. It’s got a lot of padding on the backfist, so you can really nail people with a backfist.
Not so much protection for front fist, though. You kindof have to roll your hand over when you hit them otherwise there’s not that much padding.
They have some grabbing ability, but grabbing is still a bit awkward with them.
[QUOTE=Eddie;726923]they used to use those type of gloves in the Kuoshu association down here. Not a good idea since they used those head gears with the mask on. Your front knuckes are exposed and many fighters had serious injuries and cuts to their hands as a result of the limited protection.
But seriously, if you’re not going to make contact, is it really needed?[/QUOTE]
I’m trying to explain this to you. In school we don’t really make contact or at least anything near neading equipment, BUT outside of school we do much more contact (I wouldn’t say full) and I think it warrants at least some gloves, also we’re mainly just doing grabs and punches (with a fist) so the front knuckles, while they could be a danger, won’t be as bad as without gloves.
[QUOTE=syn;726928]I’m trying to explain this to you. In school we don’t really make contact or at least anything near neading equipment, BUT outside of school we do much more contact (I wouldn’t say full) and I think it warrants at least some gloves, also we’re mainly just doing grabs and punches (with a fist) so the front knuckles, while they could be a danger, won’t be as bad as without gloves.[/QUOTE]
You know, putting this glove on and trying out the surfaces, I think the reason my sparring partners used to complain a lot about excessive force is because it really doesn’t cushion that much except for the backfist.
Shuto style strikes, ridge hand, and straight punches there’s just not that much padding with these gloves.
[QUOTE=syn;726932]They’re just complainers I guess. :p[/QUOTE]
Actually, hitting myself in the torso with these things, I think they might have had a point. I wasn’t really paying attention then. In a front fist strike it really doesn’t have much padding there at all.
I think the problem is I came to that school from World Oyama in NYC, which is pretty hard core karate. They practice for full contact kumite there no padding or anything, so they are pretty brutal with each other. Like they had one drill where they line up into two lines and you go down the line and you just pound on your partner’s torso for a while. Even the chicks do it!!!
Eddie: Well it won’t just be HG people using the gloves, my brother does 7* mantis and it’d be a lot harder for him to use boxing gloves
Lung: Are the ones you have the vinyl or leather? Also it seems that they don’t have labeled the actual measurements of each size, so I"m 16, and most of the people using the gloves could be any where from 15-21, would you say medium or large gloves?
[QUOTE=syn;726935]Eddie: Well it won’t just be HG people using the gloves, my brother does 7* mantis and it’d be a lot harder for him to use boxing gloves
Lung: Are the ones you have the vinyl or leather? Also it seems that they don’t have labeled the actual measurements of each size, so I"m 16, and most of the people using the gloves could be any where from 15-21, would you say medium or large gloves?[/QUOTE]
I have the vinyl ones. In six months of sparring and a tournament, they came out unscathed, but we didn’t go very hard.
It’s too hard to say for sizes because it depends upon your hands. If you wear a large or medium standard glove, you’ll probably want to go with that. If you can’t find any gloves to check, you could buy some for a couple of dollars in the grocery store, like the kitchen gloves to check the sizing.
. Shins are easy to condition. Rather spend your money on gloves and maybe head gear. Or get two different types of gloves. MMA gloves and boxing gloves. this way, you can get the feel for both types.
