Hi All,
Does anyone have any info on the southern eagle claw system & is there any sifu teaching it in the UK.
Cheers
Hakka jai
afraid i can’t help you, but i will take the opportunity to add another question. is eagle claw immitating the claw of an eagle? or does it immitate the whole animal?
Eagle Claw
Hakka Jai,
I believe the only style of Eagle Claw that is being taught in the UK is Northern Eagle Claw.
Julian Dale is the person that seems to be promoting the style in the Country, however I dont know that much about him.
There used to be another guy called Fu Leung, who taught Bak Shaolin Ying Jow Pai (Northern Shaolin Eagle Claw), but I don’t know if he is in the Counrty anymore.
With regards to Southern Eagle, you’ll most likely find it in style that have a lot of emphasis in Chin Na (locking and seizing) as their main grip employs the southern eagle claw.
Sorry thats the best I can do for you.
Good luck
The Wei To Hung Gar guys do a southern eagle form. Info and a picture here.
Chan Hung Sing CLF also contains an eagle form.
I have a manual which shows a Choy Lay Fut Eagle Claw form.
Maybe we’ll need to start a thread, which is better, northern eagle or southern eagle. lets see where this topic will take us.
From what I know of southern eagle is that it has less foot work, shorter movements than northern eagle. It relies more on static stance and shuffle shuffle shuffle hit hit way of doing things.
Re: Eagle Claw
Originally posted by Pakmei
There used to be another guy called Fu Leung, who taught Bak Shaolin Ying Jow Pai (Northern Shaolin Eagle Claw), but I don’t know if he is in the Counrty anymore.
he is my sigong and very very good martial artist, probably one of the least known but best out there and his qigong, chi and grappling skills are unbelievable and rival many of the old masters. probably one of the best teachers there is around too. I would look for one of his good students. but most of them are under lily lau now. or i would look for james lau student. Lueng Fu and James Lau or Lueng Shum are teachers or their good students are probably who you would want to look for in a Sifu.
Good topic.
I’ve seen a couple of Southern Eagle Claw sets on a homemade tape. Have it somewhere but been a few years since I’ve looked at it. What I remember is that the sets are not as southern as you would expect. More like CLF sets. They don’t contain the long fist skills you see in Northern Eagle Claw.
Sifu Dale was under Leung Fu but is now a representative of Gini Lau. Very good skills.
Master Leung Fu was a pioneer in the eagle claw field. While his curriculumn is a mix of a few different arts his students are very skilled. I don’t get into the purity of forms any more just how well the foundation of the performer is. Also he leads a very successful tournament team who has made strong representation in sparring. Lots of winners.
Either Julian dale or any of Leung Fu’s students would be good to learn from. Has to do with what you are looking for.
As for southern Eagle Claw, I’ve never heard of a school teaching it along.
good luck in your search.
I think we know all about northern eagle claw, its southern eagle claw that is a mystery.
Who do you think would win North or South?
I have a couple of questions about Fu Leung to people who know him.
He doesn’t look Chinese, why is his name Fu Leung and has he really mastered almost every form of CMA that exists like it says on his website?
Found some stuff:
emre,
May I ask why does someone have to look chinese to have a chinese name?
Originally posted by Ego_Extrodinaire
[B]emre,
May I ask why does someone have to look chinese to have a chinese name? [/B]
How many Chinese people do you know named Bjorn Svenson? 
Fu Leung
Emre,
I believe that Fu Leung comes from Malaysia.
You’ll find if you’ve ever been to Malaysia, that there is a wide variety of cultures from Chinese, Moslim, Sikh, etc.
The most obvious answer to your question is: may be that Fu Leung has chinese parentage such as Chinese Father and a Moslim/Hindi mother. Maybe someone that knows him, can confirm or deny this. Not that it should matter!
You’ll also find that many Malay people are actually dark skinned.
Regards
Yes, I actually gathered that from fu-pow’s link. So he’s from Malaysia, is that where he became master of almost all existing forms of CMA styles?
emre,
None I know of, but it is irrelvant and a chinese Bjorn Svenson is not beyond the realms of possibility. Is it?
Pakmei,
I think the discussion of kung fu along the lines of race is a very unhealty thing which you should stop immediately.
But a valid question is why is southern eagle not as popular as northern eagle? any takers?
i work with an unmarried chinese woman with a western surname. unfortunatly i’d feel rude about asking why. but anyways if her name can be ***** taggart. then why not bjorn svenson?
Relevant point, neit. I once work with a black guy who’s name was Jesse Abdule-Raheim, who wasn’t muslam, and didn’t come from a muslam family.
Becca / Neit,
In any case it isn’t relevant. People who study southern kung fu especially might border on the idea of chinese superiority. It tends to happen with these closed door village styles because they developed out of places that number a few people in a village and everyone knows everyone else. Kind of like the small town syndrome where cousins look like their uncles - real unhealthy goings on.
Becca
Could I ask who you train pai lum with in Colorado?