Simple Question

quote:
“Here on a martial arts forum we tend to always talk as if we were facing off with well trained martial artists, when the streets really aren’t teeming with martial artists - and the majority of the martial artists out there are karate and TKD school dropouts more then actual hard practicing hard fighting hard boiled fighters.”

I suppose in a sense that’s true, but there’s also security guards, ex- military guys, cops, killers, skinheads, gang bangers and drunken badassess as well as a few others.

High kicks are to kick the horses in the head

:eek: ****! Aren’t horses like 500-1000 pound beasts covered in muscle, moving at high speeds? That’s got to be a prety powerful kick. Im assuming the intent isnt to KILL the horse…

Well, you know the Old Saying:

Kick a Horse, Punch a Donkey.

Originally posted by XiaoJieFu
:eek: ****! Aren’t horses like 500-1000 pound beasts covered in muscle, moving at high speeds?

Yeah, but so am I.

Yeah, hose beast maybe.

Originally posted by XiaoJieFu
:eek: ****! Aren’t horses like 500-1000 pound beasts covered in muscle, moving at high speeds? That’s got to be a prety powerful kick. Im assuming the intent isnt to KILL the horse…

We are talking kungfu warriors here, not pansy-foot TKD guys.

Sorry no animal protection group in the old days.
If you didn’t want to kill the horse with your kick you could use a Quando horsecutter to cut out it’s legs

Punch a donkey, eat a dog.

Originally posted by Starchaser107
[B]quote:
“Here on a martial arts forum we tend to always talk as if we were facing off with well trained martial artists, when the streets really aren’t teeming with martial artists - and the majority of the martial artists out there are karate and TKD school dropouts more then actual hard practicing hard fighting hard boiled fighters.”

I suppose in a sense that’s true, but there’s also security guards, ex- military guys, cops, killers, skinheads, gang bangers and drunken badassess as well as a few others. [/B]

Kick em all in the head and let God sort them out.

TKD did not come from TSD. The founders of the ‘Kwans’ that merged to create TKD were all 1st or 2nd Degree black Belts in Shotokan Karate. Most learned in Japan where they were serving in the Japanese military, as Korea was a colony of Japan in those days.

TKD has since evolved into an interesting sport - but not a very useful fighting method.

Most of the fanciful history of TKD is just that - fancy, not truth. It has certainly evolved into it’s own thing. I would not cross-train TKD with CMA, as you will learn too many habits that do will inhibit what most CMA try to acheive.

as you will learn too many habits that do will inhibit what most CMA try to acheive.

Can u please give me some examples?

Originally posted by XiaoJieFu
Can u please give me some examples?
Not hitting the face.

Sure, here’s a short list. But before people start screeching ‘oh it ain’t so’, I’ve played with all stripes and caliber of TKD people, I know of which I speak.

Problems with TKD:
How you stand. How you move. How you keep your hands down, and expose your groin as an opening move. Rotating the elbow to the outside of the body when punching. The wierd, rigid body mechanics. One-step sparring where the opponent doesn’t actually try to hit you, stops, then you move in. Pretty much everything in regards to how TKD moves…

Need I go on? Friends don’t let friends do TKD…

But before people start screeching ‘oh it ain’t so’,

Trust me, I wasn’t at all challenging when i asked for examples. I’m just eager for information about this. I by no means have some sort of faith in TKD. I’ve only been to 3 lessons, and am thus far pretty unimpressed… Except for the general workout and fun time.

I’m aware theres a huge difference between TKD sparring and a real fight/CMA sparring. I’m aware of the weird rigid movements that don’t seem practical in any way whatsoever…

Rotating the elbow to the outside of the body when punching

What do u mean by this? Doesn’t any standard straight punch leave ur elbow facing the outside?

What would be a better art to train instead of TKD if i can’t find a Kung Fu school here at my university?

Who do you think would win in a fight, an Olympic Wrestler or an Olympic TKD’er?

:smiley:

depends on what rules they’re fighting by.:stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue:

Is the Olympic wrestler a parapalegic?

Originally posted by Starchaser107
depends on what rules they’re fighting by.:stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue:

no rules. 2 guys locked in a room. who comes out?

and MST had owned this thread since the beginning.

Originally posted by ShaolinTiger00
[B]no rules. 2 guys locked in a room. who comes out?

and MST had owned this thread since the beginning. [/B]

Is the wrestler on a horse? That makes a big difference ya know.

Originally posted by Water Dragon
Is the wrestler on a horse? That makes a big difference ya know.

Actually he’s sitting on 7 Star, who is wearing a saddle and a bridle.. you know like a typical friday night..

ST, there are some places where you just shouldn’t go. That was one of them.

yuck

What do u mean by this? Doesn’t any standard straight punch leave ur elbow facing the outside?

I think he’s talking about while the punch is being executed. Lots of TKD guys let their elbow come away from the body during a punch so that rather than coming straight out behind the punch, the elbow ends up sticking out to the side for a second part way through. So if you looked at a punch straight on, you’d see the arm like this < for a second(like a chicken wing). It’s not so much that they teach you to specifically punch like that, they just often don’t pay attention to little details like that when it comes to punching. That’s the biggest difference I noticed between my wushu training and my TKD training, was the little basic details that the TKD people just didn’t seem to care about.