Shaolin training

I don’t have any criticism to give. In fact I don’t really know much about it except that I recall an article about Shaolin-Do trip to China and demonstrating for the Shaolin Monks. Even then I don’t really remember any of the article only some images of pictures of guys weaing gi and bare foot during performance?

Well like I said…I don’t know much about this topic.

Actually I was wondering…

you said that you practiced Yang style and Hsing-I…but was this developed within the Shaolin-Do curriculum/style or was it recently added on as supplement training?

If it has been added or developed into the style from the past then how does it differ to the more traditional style?

Thanks

Originally posted by iron_silk
[B]Actually I was wondering…

you said that you practiced Yang style and Hsing-I…but was this developed within the Shaolin-Do curriculum/style or was it recently added on as supplement training?

If it has been added or developed into the style from the past then how does it differ to the more traditional style?

Thanks [/B]

As you can see from Fred’s reply below, some people really have a bone to pick and vehementely attack SD. ( but I think he is one of those guys that criticizes everything anyway)

To be honest I don’t know when SD started teaching tai chi and hsing-I. It was taught to Sin The in Indonesa and he was taught by Ie Chang Ming who studied at the Southern Temple before it was destroyed. Ie Chang Ming spent time in China after the Fukien temple was destroyed. My guess is that much of the material that is incorporated into SD was shared by these Monks after the destruction of the temples.

Of course in answering your questins I’m going to draw lots of fire from some in these forums. As long as its constructive, I’ll be glad to discuss my style.

either a result of Indonesian law or marketing in America (or maybe both).

don’t even try to say that shaolin-do is kun-tao. I guess it’s hard to accept the fact that you bought into a lie.

Originally posted by Fred Sanford
[B]

don’t even try to say that shaolin-do is kun-tao. I guess it’s hard to accept the fact that you bought into a lie. [/B]

The is from Indonesa and did learn SD there (although I don’t think it was called SD until after GM The came to America). Your entitled whatever opinons you have.

shaolin-do = karate

Originally posted by Fred Sanford
shaolin-do = karate

FS,

Your opinion.

I’m curious. Have you ever posted a link where you weren’t busting on someone else or their style? If so, please post that link.

I don’t care if people want to have negative opinions about SD. If you are going to do so, at least be constructive. But, then again, some people feel better about themselves by putting other people down.

:confused:

have you ever checked out any indonesian martial arts? Maybe you should.

funny how shaolin-do supposedly passed through indonesia but does not seem to have any indonesian influence whatsoever.

open your frickin eyes.

Originally posted by Fred Sanford
[B]have you ever checked out any indonesian martial arts? Maybe you should.

funny how shaolin-do supposedly passed through indonesia but does not seem to have any indonesian influence whatsoever.

open your frickin eyes. [/B]

Have you? Have you ever checked out SD? Or do you just jump on the bandwagon and stir up stuff because it makes you feel important.

BTW, I never said SD was kung tao or whatever. I never said it resembles any Indonesian martial art. I simply said that Sin The learned it from Ie Chang Ming when he lived in Indonesia.

If your going to point at the speck in my eye, take out the plank in your eye first.

Actually I was wondering…

you said that you practiced Yang style and Hsing-I…but was this developed within the Shaolin-Do curriculum/style or was it recently added on as supplement training?

If it has been added or developed into the style from the past then how does it differ to the more traditional style?

Thanks

The Willow Sword allways claimed that if there was anything worth knowing, SD’s Xingyi was it. As for the Taiji(from Mr. Mullins vid), the SD guy’s techniques were more or less Yang style(it was only the first few movements of the form though). Material has obviously been added to the curriculum relatively recently, as can be seen by the inclusion of the 24 movement “Yang” form which is part of standardized wushu Taijiquan and didn’t exist until 1956.

Originally posted by Brad

The Willow Sword allways claimed that if there was anything worth knowing, SD’s Xingyi was it. As for the Taiji(from Mr. Mullins vid), the SD guy’s techniques were more or less Yang style(it was only the first few movements of the form though). Material has obviously been added to the curriculum relatively recently, as can be seen by the inclusion of the 24 movement “Yang” form which is part of standardized wushu Taijiquan and didn’t exist until 1956.

I also believe that Willow Sword thought that Buddha fist was a good tai chi form and practices the form himself.

  1. 14 (13 bak sil lum and one xingyi - just started)

  2. 3 1/2 years bak sil lum, and just started xingyi

  3. “Don’t train the basics and when you are old you will have nothing.” Stances and other basic skills like conditioning and fitness are important parts of kungfu, and many go so far as to say they are most important. I train every day.

  4. I generally practice the form I am learning 10 to 20 times at least twice a week. I practice my xingyi form every day and most days I practice my bak sil lum hand forms and weapon forms as much as possible, plus applications and chin na whenever I can.

  5. I rarely do soft qigong, but if I do, it is before hard practice, when my mind is peaceful.

  6. I practice hard qigong (Iron Palm) after hard practice.

I also believe that Willow Sword thought that Buddha fist was a good tai chi form and practices the form himself.

I guess TWS thought a lot of things :smiley:

Since this is the “Shaolin” forum, I might as well discuss my visit with Master Xiong (an authentic Shaolin monk in Phoenix).

I attended his afternoon class, which was almost exclusively pre-teen children. A few adults were participating, so I knew that it wasn’t exclusively a kids’ class. I didn’t participate, but I watched. Master Xiong and I are acquaintances of each other, and I had told him that I’d visit him sometime.

The class lasted about 1 1/2 hours. It was separated into stretching, then some basic stance work, then combinations of wushu athletic moves. No forms were done that day. Breaks lasted about 5 minutes long.

For the most part, the class was pretty much the same as the one taught by my Albany wushu instructor Jiang Jianye.

Tell us more about Master Xiong

I’d heard rumors of someone in Phoenix. Got website? A full name would be helpful too…