Bac Fu Do??? Bai Hu Pai??? White tigers must be popular Down Under.
UnderagedMonkey is just a kid, believing what he’s told.
ShaolinMaster may be alittle more suspect…
I am surprised that he takes the time to type out all this hooey…
Usually, one builds strength only until speed and agility have been acquired. Without these, a person becomes stiff in their movements…
I myself used to weight lift two years ago. Quit though because its like I have to go out of my way to the weight training room @ my school.
Anyways, right now for muscle strength all I do is forearm conditioning, horse-stance, pushups, vertical pushups, pullups, leg lifts, sit ups.
Underaged Drunken Monkey
MoQ
The purpose of actually being here is to do research. Should you desire meager empty discussions then I guess Kungfuonline is a useless tool. Time for the sake of knowledge learning and development even in the smallest way is never in vain. If you dislike others efforts and cherish solely your own then do not partake in such ventures.
The ASI has researched many schools since its humble beginnings information of which shall appear in the web in the not too distant future.
Shi Chan Long
Yeah, well you can’t expect to show up spoutin’ hooey…
…and expect everyone to just buckle at the knees sighing "Oh ShaolinMaster, you are so learned and from your extensive list of styles you must be a true Master! Please teach us!
On the contrary, your “research” on many schools is more of an offense than anything else. You seem completely self-appointed, self concerned and as far as I’ve seen, most of what you’ve posted is the work of a BS Artist who thinks everyone else is kinda DIM. I sincerely hope no children or other impressionables look to you for information!
Life
MoQ : Thank you ! [I have nothing to say to you, as your behaviour is conclusive, my respects as you do not show ‘Wu De’]
Anyway back to subject :
Sir Kemera I have not heard of any Green Dragon in china of the Chan family as such could you elaborate it sounds interesting. If you could explain any traits I would be honoured.
Shaolin Kung Fu Only : I wonder if Heming has been caught in the middle of the Abbott of Songshan Shaolin vacuating the area. I have written to two friends but they haven’t responded for a few days now.
Shi Chan Long
Shaolin kung Fu
Great Idea. I study Northern Shaolin Kung Fu in Minneapolis, MN. I am always looking to learn more.
i don’t see why shoalin master is being attacked?
he didn’t say or do anything offensive yet. hey just shared what he knows.
on a lighter note tell me what traits your interested in knowing and i’ll try to answer you to the best of my ability.
moq- get off this thread goose
your not shaolin
If you like shaolin.com
you’ll like ShaolinMaster!
And you may want to check out Shaolin-Do! Did you see his list of styles? WOW, I said to myself, "Either this is a real Shaolin Master from the Land Down-Under, or this is a BS Artist! Are we left with any other choices?
Fierce Tigger- Hey, you aren’t shaolin either! 
Do you not understand that he’s saying he has mastered your Bak Mei in it’s original Fujian form, before is was ruined by mixing it Hakka material? Do you like that? Do you think he is REALLY a Shaolin Master?
Thank you MoQ for your words of genuine knowledge and inspiration. May the world bless you with happiness and profound attainment of knowledge of yourself and mind. 
Sir Kemera, please if possible describe what you practise in terms of posture, technique, Routines/Forms, Length of Forms, Repetitiveness of movements in Forms, Fighting Strategy, Emphasis between Hands and legs, Power short long circular linear. Breathing short long relaxed tense. stepping straight, 3 Direct, Cross Fashion
Lineage more in depth (dates location good), Similarity with which styles, Weaponry, exact area of origin..etc…as a start.If require privacy on such matters please email them to me instead …I understand always, especially given the wasteful use of this medium by some with no sense of living.
Fierce Tiger - Thank you.
Bai Mei - In Sydney alone there are two Bak Mei schools, a Long Ying school, 2 Wuchu schools, a few yau kung men schools etc. the bak mei is of the vietnamese origin. My teacher knows the eldest teacher of the Bai Mei school and we have exchanged concepts with regard to our bak fu kuen and bak mei developments. Unfortunately or should I say fortunately in Australia Martial Arts Schools are not financially or moralistically competitive as USA also we are much more open to discussion. The Long Ying School is my Si Bak from singapores auntie’s husband and we have exchanged arts here many years ago. Yau Kung mun is much more like Bak mei than Long Ying anyway…no need to hustle bustle everyone trying to be the best. In Singapore the National Pugilistic association, the Army and the SouthEast Asian pugilistic associations were all headed by my grandmaster or granduncles and now uncles at anyone time. The input from so many Sth East asian schools is tremendous.
ASI has 8 Teachers involved in the Group. Not me alone, sorry MoQ I am only one. There are only around 45 students at a time as most are rejected due to attitude and moral or they cannot endure the basics hardships. Most students have spent at least 5 years learning other Kung fu prior to learning. Every student specialises in a different set of systems (complete arts) of which usually three is the maximum.
MoQ you are right Shaolin.com & Shaolin Do are quite questionable as you would have seen by my previous posting elsewhere. Though as mentioned everyone has a right top their place in the world, even yourself. So go on be superficial be arrogant you have done it everywhere else so why not here. I will not be tempered like ortiz only dissappointed at the state of Martial Artists today.
Everything is Nothing
Shi Chan Long
thats enough out of you Moq,
you haven’t contributed one thing to this forum i don’t know if anyone is real here or not. and niether do you. That is the problem with dealling with other people over the net. They can lie, so you either exist in your ignorant bubble and criticize the people around you, or give everyone the basic respect they deserve and the benefit of the doupt.
Perspectives
People see what they want to see
Remove the want and you see what is really there
If you have any questions about Ch’an or Zen please feel free to e-mail me and I will answer to best my knowledge.
Ashley Mills
United Kingdom
Shaolin@btinternet.com
One thread pulled from the tapestry, cheapens the whole.
all corners contribute.
The charlatans let us know what not to study and the masters make us wait to be able to study.
Patience comes from within as with any personal growth.
To throw away that which is unexamined properly only leaves it to be discovered by someone who understands the true value of it.
We cannot disparage any style or any system that points to Shaolin as its heritage and foundations.
This is a great honour to be admired and aspired to by both genuine and fake alike!
It speaks volumes to the seeking of the path as opposed to the wanting of the path and the refusal to really look sincerely for it.
peace
Kung Lek
It’s the straight up pretention and BS that I can’t stand…
but I love it when people call themselves ShaolinMaster and name 40 different systems as their repertoire and offer to teach us with wisdom like “the taller the bamboo grows the lower it bows”, you know, like it makes him seem humble… I just love it.
You can always wear a smaller hat to avoid the inevitable derision…
I think its funny, but only the kids are in awe. Everyone from any of the styles that were abit insulted by being so easily mastered are sitting back going “Who is THIS fool?”…
fakes ect
Owing to the recent amount of posts regarding real or fake I would just like to clarify something, my e-mail is Shaolin@btinternet.com
this means my btinternet user name is Shaolin, this was chosen about a year ago by myself because of my avid interest in Shaolin gungfu and philosophy. It serves not as a means for personal gain or as a falsitude used to influence others.
Some people will end up doubting every master they come across without even considering learning some kung fu of the master to see if he is genuine.
Ashley Mills
shaolinmaster,
do you teach in a temple at cabramatta, sydney aust.
i know the pak mei master chou fu (vietnames)style it has many differnt forms that clc dont, like the turtle form for eg. similar to mantis dip gwat gung-rib training. him and the late ykm gmaster use to hang out.
unfortunately there are lots of shaolin fakes that give shaolin a bad name. where did you study.
i may come over to australia one day for a visit and we could hook up.
moq- i dont believe he is a shaolin monk or master but a maybe a teacher of these arts.forty systems is a stake to learn. maybe he has the core forms only. a lot of people do hide under this name and make loads of monet though…
no disrespect to you shaolinmaster
The Temple in Cabrammatta is not a temple but a community association - The Teo Chew Association.
The Students there learned ‘Wu Chu Quan’ in the past but now ‘Chow Gar’. My Last Teacher Li Bin Ching still teaches around the corner in the Chinese descendants association. All are well acquainted.
I teach in Darling Harbour.
Just recently for the olympic torch we did a 14 lion - lion dance together with teo chew assoc. and Dong Tam.
Chau Phu has 3 sons and a daughter I went to same high school as has his sons many years ago. I lived around the corner from them in Fairfield Heights in my youth.
Again I find such ‘proofing’ to be silly though I conform out of the fact that I understand the amount of silly things that could be proclaimed over the net.
THough I have been disheartened and may not continue KFonline.
I have outlined Fujian lineage on a separate post. I Have a Wudang, Ermei & Songshan to outline via email not online.
Each student of mine practises totally different to suit their characteristics. No one masters everything even myself.
Enough to much gibberish to waste on forums with non progressive individuals.
Please anyone visit anytime. I am non commercial so you will not find me without asking.
Regards
Shi Chan Long
Guys would Shaolin Kempo be considered shaolin kung fu?
well i’m sorry to hear that you maybe leaving. thats most unfortunate.
Moq i love it more to hear little minded ppl run around on the net trying to sound big and important by denouncing everyone around them and claiming themselves the true intelligence of the universe.
I don’t think the master is scared away…
And any claims made by me were in your little imagination… If people only spoke their minds without the smirking boasts then I don’t think there would be any problem. I am so sorry how easily warriors feel attacked or offended but the big floppy hat blocks my view.