Seminar at Ashville tournament

Wai Jia: The Kung Fu Forum Northern Praying Mantis
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Shrfu Kevin Brazier will be teaching a seminar on Sunday morning.
Shrfu John Scolaro is unable to attend the tournament.

The seminar will be based on the luo hand drills( leaking hands) as well as kao da drills, warm ups and aspects of the luo hands.

The seminar costs is $60 and should start at about 8:00 a.m.

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Thanks, 18E. I got it posted on the other thread but didn’t get over here to do it.

Hope some folks decided to drop in on us.

If you haven’t been looking to come to the tourney but are interested in the seminar, go to www.ashevillemartialarts.com. Contact info is there for me.
Give me a call if you need directions or any other details.

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…dammmm…

I just spend a couple of hours sitting around a table listening to Shifu Kevin.

you guys NEED to listen to what this guy has to say about mantis.

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Hi Matt,

So… What did he say? Pray tell please… :slight_smile:

You know you need to balance the tease with goodies right? :wink: :smiley:

Warm regards

Robert

PS I trust the seminar went well?

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just stuff…you know the sitting around at dinner stuff that is sometimes more enlightening than the actual training.

Just dropped Shifu Kevin and 18elders off at the airport.

The seminar was on Mantis Leaking Hands:

Rising, Following, Rolling and Bottom.

We just did 4 hours this morning. He warmed us up w/ some nie gung including 3 turns and 9 rotations and then did some warmups and exercises to work on ‘through the back’ energy in striking.

then straight in to the leaking hands.

video was shot for the whole thing and Shifu Kevin is thinking about a video from it.

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Hi Matt,

Thanks for the report. I really appreciate it. I have no doubt that Kevin will always come through with good stuff. But this is really something (quite a treat if you ask me).

The 3 returns 9 rotations is amongst the rare Neigong stuff of Mantis (at least in the west). I am glad that he’s sharing it openly. Did his do the hitting on you as well?

It seems that he covers only 4 of the 5 leaking this time. Would there be another seminar soon to cover the last one - Dodging (shan lou)? So they just fly in and then fly out overnight?

Anyway, it’s great. I for one will be looking forward for the DVD when it comes out.

Warm regards

Robert

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that was a great seminar, and for only 60! That was an extremely generous price IMO. I like the way Shifu Brazier teaches–gets his point across with his words and hands.

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Yes this was a great seminar. A short warm up that got the point across, three returns nine rotations, Tong bei (sp) through the back energy, and the Mantis leaking hands, plus all the little things in between. Those that were there know what I mean. Five hours of training, our water breaks consisted of how long it took him to take a swallow of water, we learned to run to our water source and run back to our spot. He also critiqued anyone that wanted to have their forms looked at. He drove them hard, I watched closely. Kevin puts on a great seminar, but to be honest, our seminars are very informative. Much much more than just learning a form. I hope to add to this, kind of a hurry it is late and I`m dead tired from the weekend.

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Kevin Brazier wanted everyone to know that he will be responding to this thread. He is busy with his Wife and children who have just arrived from Taiwan, and are settling in.

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I hope Kevin’s family is safe and settling in well.

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Shifu Kevin

I hope his family likes it here. I heard Shifu Kevin and my Shifu talking about Tong Bei. The guy is a great teacher, hope to see him again soon.

israel

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Hi Folks,
Sorry for the on going delays. Moving the family here and getting them accustomed to the American lifestyle.

The heart of the class I taught was…

  1. rising leak(ti lou)
  2. following leak(xun lou)
  3. rolling leak(gun lou)
  4. bottom leak(di lou)
  5. body leak(shan lou)

Known as the 5 leaking hands.
What makes this so special is its universal importance to mantis.
These moves can bridge to just about any other technique in my version of the Mantis Boxing style.

Becuase of their relative simplicity we can almost instantly train the moves at full speed, full power and on proper target. In other words, the defender can’t make mistakes or they will get hit, as was the case with several students hitting me.

Not my fault really..they looked so sweet and innocent before they attacked me. I had no idea what was coming.

More later…

Kevin

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Hi Kevin,

Man, it’s about time! Glad to hear that your family is safely here. I hope they like America. :slight_smile: Please say hi to them for me, thanks.

About the seminar and the material, I am drooling 10 feet already. Is there a way to get a sneak peek at the video? I know I sound like a broken record but I truely wish to be there. :frowning:

Warmest regards

Robert

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Hi, Uncle. (ok, I’ve been seeing different people romanize that several ways over the last week or so…and I missed when you were asked specifically…so…what is it? "Shibo’', “Shibua” or "Shibuo

We’ve been drilling those lou shou every class…I had to give my shoulder a rest after your seminar…definitely stressed it a bit…so I’ve laid off a bit, only going through it slow. Need to be healthy for the March trip to Tampa.

I hope your family is settling in well and are making the adjustment to the States.

My school is still all abuzz from your visit. Thanks again for taking the time to come up here.

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Robert, you know you got a place to stay in NC anytime.

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Yea there wasnt much room for error, I took some good shots by Shibo. Good thing Im such a hard head. Between these pops and Osos tudi`s trying to kill me, made for an interesting seminar and me staying focused. We really learned alot in 4 hours. And this was a solid four hours, maybe 30 seconds here and there to swallow water. I enjoyed how Shibo Kevin presented his material, I learned many things that day. My guys are especially fond of the 3 turns 9 rotations. They are showing up early are practicing this on each other. I spent last week reviewing the leaking hands, maybe step things up this week. After the grueling fours, Kevin wanted to see my students do some of their forms. He really drove them hard. He showed us some interesting ways of doing our forms. A great learning day for me.

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and Osos tudis trying to kill me

hehe…they may not look like the best mantis players…but, they’re mostly pretty aggresive. :cool:

I did have one question about these Lou Shou: are they beginner, intermediate or advanced type drills? I only had 3 students who didn’t make the seminar and they are learning them but in the grand scheme of things…

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Where do 5 leaking hands fit in?

First comes the 8 stances. For beginners you can stay there as far as forms are concerned for up to 6 months or a year.

During this time there is also internal development, the so called nei gung.

About that it is said,“The first attainment is to accumulate strength. Cultivate the qi and perfect the spirit. This is the Luohan’s accomplishment on the path of achievement. Accomplishment can be attained after one hundred days of practice.”

This is an important aspect of training the internal organs to avoid damage to them at a later date.

Then there is the training of the grabs. Before learning the strikes come the grabs and how they work. This also develops the grab strength so at this time throwing the bag is important.

Then the kao da. Training of short strike methods… for example:

  1. Chao Tui
  2. Calf Strike
  3. Deng Pu
  4. Chao Tui with Deng Pu
  5. Deng Ta
  6. Knee to Belly
  7. Hip Strike
  8. Rib Strike
  9. Kick to Back or Back Strike

Also a good time to start throwing.

Kao Da has 11 purposes:

  1. Strengthen Bones
  2. Apply Iron Body skills (check 3 Huai, 9 Zhuan for a better term)
  3. Brings an understanding of short strikes
  4. Trains for fall
  5. Trains resistance against strikes and defense
  6. Allows full power strikes against the proper targets
  7. Trains several Mantis grabs
  8. Strengthens the gripping power
  9. Develops rooted stances
  10. Learn about opening and closing gates
  11. Trains proper distance for techniques

What Kao Da Doesn’t Do:

  1. Stress cardio

  2. Stress immediate reaction time

  3. Train combinations

  4. Explore hand strike methods

  5. Train the initial attack

    Kao Da Categories

  6. Kicks Kao Da

  7. Short Strikes Kao Da(some are listed above)

  8. Throws

While all this is being taught it is a good idea to teach:

  1. the solo kicking methods
  2. forms
  3. hitting an object(bag, pole etc).

After these have been taught it is the time to begin the training of the 5 leaking hands. The pick up where kao da leaves off.
Next the student can train in the following:

2.18 Essential Hands
These 18 methods are used on the initial attack.
3. 12 Essential Bu Jao Bu Jia Techniques
A method of dodging the opponent’s strike and countering.
4. 12 Techniques of Interconnecting and Substituting the Block and Strike
In these techniques the strike and block are interconnected.
5. All the Interconnected Hands Which Defeat Chaotic Hands
A combination of hand and elbow methods.
6. 12 Coiling Elbows
The short strike elbow techniques.

Finally the application of the moves of the forms.

Kevin

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wow…what an answer. I just wish I understood all of that in english. :frowning:

oh, well…more road trips are in the future.

Thanks!!