Secret of the Golden Flower?

I was hoping I wasn’t going to scare you away. Yeah lets continue with another mystical model.

Death-3 days in tomb-Resurrection-50 days until-Descent of the Holy Spirit

I noticed a three day period early on with a ahem almost wet dream and what St Teresa calls rapture or some kundalini rising. It would be one night I would sublimate the sexual essence and three days later during meditation I would have an experience of feeling like I was being pulled upward through a tunnel.

Now this is significant because of the experience we’ve been discussing relates to this. It all started with a sublimating sexual essence (death) then three days later the tiny body coming out of the forehead (resurrection) and then exactly fifty days later the world is light event.

So this is another timed schedule but clearly allegorical but with an exact correlation to what I experienced. I am not so arrogant to think I am the only one or that the universe is so random that things just had to line up for someone and so why not me.

The Kaballah too has the tree of life of the stages of spiritual growth. What I know best is Catholic and Taoist. I have been getting a little disturbed recently because watching some programs on Egyptian temple got me seeing the same mystical symbolism as is in my local church. It is all about alchemy. Maybe its a function of sacred geometry to point out what you are already looking for.

(As a side note-Do you know sacred geometry? I was blown away when I realized Tai Chi was full of the spirals and numbers of life. It seems much more pure than that seen in the Luxor temple in Egypt, the Great Temple at Anghor Wat or in my local Catholic church. Thats another thing that disturbs me.)

All this points to a consistent method of developing the total human being with confirmatory signs. Its a map. Why would you think I would confuse mile markers with the destination? I want to get to Downtown and I know three land marks that are supposed to be on the road. I see the first two but now I stop and ask directions because I think I have gone too far and ask about the third. But you tell me I am getting lost in the landmarks? Or that the landmarks change from person to person? Or the first two landmarks I did see were wrong?

Greetings..

You may find some useful direction at the link below. The previous art director had better taste, but.. the text is consistent with the instruction i have been blessed to receive.. Navigate the pages on the left of the screen…

http://sivasakti.com/

Be Well..

Sweet Holy Mother of God! I dont mean to offend or act like a prude but maybe a warning before sending me to a tantra site? I am a no sex before marraige christian, one of those conservative types you have no doubt heard about. No tantra sites for me.:eek:

So what was the experience that Scott said you had TaiChiBob?

Hi Darin,

I do not mean to imply you are getting lost in the landmarks. I am intending to caution you not too. Please remember I know essentially nothing about you, only what you have typed here. I can only discuss cautions and topics and situations of which I have some knowledge. I can only understand what you explain to me. If my impression is wrong I rely upon you to correct my impression.

I am fascinated by the fact that your experiences are conforming strictly to the time periods outlined. I think I understand your concern now. Your personal experiences seem to have ALWAYS conformed to the time period specified by the system you follow so naturally you would wonder, why not now? All I can say is in my experience everything comes in its own time. Nothing else in life conforms strictly to a predetermined time line. It is not a natural process of Tao to have a strict timeline for anything. Puberty for example occurs around the same time for most individuals, however if we observe the process closely we would see that within that time period there is wide variation. I had a friend in high school that did not even start puberty until he was over 18 while I had another friend that had completed his transition by aged 14. At age 14 he had more hair on his body than I have now, LOL!! So by observing life/Tao we see signs everywhere that there is no fixed time period for anything. I cannot guarantee how long it would take you to bench press 300# or to memorize a specific item. There is personal variation for everything based upon an individual’s unique temperament, inclinations, motivations, genetic make up, etc.

It seems reasonable to question your method and wonder if you have miscalculated or done something incorrectly. It is possible that your experiences are so conforming because you expect them too, or it may just be you happen to conform strictly to the specified time by your nature. You appear to be very dedicated.

I would recommend introspecting into your own mind and evaluate yourself; be patient and wait to see what happens. I don’t think I have anything else to offer you because your strict adherence to the timelines specified by your practice is outside my personal experience and insight. Please be sure to let us know if your expected outcome does occur and when I would be fascinated to know about it.

Going along the Christian modality then I am past due. Going on the Taoist one I am due on June 4-10 or the end of July.

I have struggled with Tao vs Christ in my mind for years. Its even in my dreams where I die and have to choose an after life building that looks like a dojo or a church.

I decided to let life pick it last year and which ever model was the accurate one I would throw myself completely into. What if both are wrong?

Am I the only one who constantly obsesses on spiritual matters? I meditate 4hours a day. I go to mass every day. I practice Tai Chi every day. I continually read the various worlds spiritual classics. I have no interest in dating. I dont have a TV. It seems that nothing matters but God to me. All my life people tell me there is more to life than God. I have never believed them.

It is not a natural process of Tao to have a strict timeline for anything.

Scott, can you elaborate on that? For example, while it may not be a natural process of the tao, perhaps it is an unnatural process of the tao? Or must all processes of the tao be natural ones?

Hi Darin,

I don’t think it is fair for anyone else to define your life for you. It is up to you to find your own path. While your dedication is not common behavior it is not necessarily abnormal where abnormal is defined as unhealthy behavior.

It is not what you do, but why you do it that determines whether it is unhealthy or not. If you are running away from life then it could be considered unhealthy. In this case your dedication could be a coping mechanism you are using to avoid unpleasant experiences of life. Rather than learning to cope with life you may be avoiding experiences that will allow you to grow in other ways. However, if it is a coping mechanism that is also a benefit in some manner then it is certainly better than watching TV all day, getting drunk, using drugs, partying all the time or going nuts because you have no other effective coping mechanism. In other words, if the benefits out weigh the detriments then it is providing a net good for you, but it is up to you to determine this for yourself. One way to help you identify you motivations is to introspect into your mind when you have a choice to train or attended another activity. If you choose to train because you are avoiding the activity then your training may be an escape from life. If you choose to train because attaining your goal is more important than the other activity then what you are doing is exercising self-discipline.

If your dedication is due to your natural inclination or interest then why would it be any different than anyone else pursuing their interests? An Olympic athlete may spend 8-14 hours a day pursuing their activity of choice. The gains they achieve have limits; they are transient benefits that pass away with time. Spiritual gains are eternal. That is why the Bible says store your treasures in heaven, not on earth.

There is also such a thing as over doing it. Life occurs in ebbs and flows; Yin and Yang cycles. I personally refer to it as equilibrium (balance) versus disequilibrium (imbalance). Growth is stimulated by disequilibrium. When we experience disequilibrium it is uncomfortable, unpleasant and this motivates us to regain our equilibrium. Equilibrium stimulates growth by motivating change, a change within us that is hopefully for the better. If we didn’t change we would not regain the balance we seek. So disequilibrium motivates us to change, but we must choose a change that benefits us not one that hinders growth. So for example if a person chooses to deal with their disequilibrium by getting drunk to numb the discomfort, this can be seen as a non-productive change since it does not involve growth for personal betterment. A simpler way to explain all of this is to say, stress causes change! Change equals growth. But after growth come rest which occurs during the return to balance.

After equilibrium is regained there follows a period of rest; equilibrium is rest. This appears to be a period of non-activity, but it is actually time where the lessons gained from the period of disequilibrium are fermented, strengthened and internalized into our being. Following a period of balance another destabilizing event will occur to motivate further change. If we push ourselves too hard for too long we fall into a state similar to physical overtraining, but in this case it is emotional overtraining. When this occurs we lose ground because we force a continuous disequilibrium that exceeds our endurance causing a ccondition that reduces or reverses growth.

There is no reason to choose between Christianity and Taoism. Both are merely useful expedients. They are methods of developing spirit. Neither is better or worse than the other and both may be misapplied, misunderstood and abused. If an individual truly understood the deepest meanings of the major religions they would discover they all seek to achieve the same purpose. The surface rules and rituals are for the many who do not have the aptitude for deeper meanings. Each religion merely uses different tools (rituals) and metaphor according to the culture from which they originated. They are just different fingers pointing to the same moon. Tools, the finger pointing to the moon, become unnecessary, once we discover the moon.

Hi Ben,

LOL!!! Good question!

It all depends upon which perspective one chooses to view the processes of Tao. On a grand scale, the scale of the Absolute, there are no unnatural processes. It is impossible for something to occur outside Tao; therefore all phenomena are part of Tao and a natural process.

On a local level, the level of human experience, we may speak of natural and un-natural processes. This is merely and expedient or perhaps you could call it a technicality that is used to describe processes that follow or do not follow the principles of tzu-jan and wu-wei which are characteristics of natural, non-forced spontaneously arising phenomena. From this perspective one may push the river which while may not actually be out of accord with Tao from the Absolute perspective, it could be considered un-natural in that the act does not accommodate itself to a non-forced, spontaneously arising process.

It appears to be a paradox and in a sense it is but it is all a matter of perspective. Think of it in terms of clouds in the sky. They are merely clouds, but my mind may project onto the clouds a recognizable image. The nature of clouds is to form spontaneously following the principles of the nature of hydrology, tzu-jan and wu-wei. The forms I perceive when looking at the clouds are a natural process of my mind. The natural process of clouds is to be inherently without geometrically identifiable shape. It is a natural process of the mind to form coherent images out of seeming incoherent shapes. While it is un-natural from this perspective for clouds to spontaneously form coherent geometrical shapes, it is natural for the mind to perceive them through projection onto the cloud from within itself. While it is natural for clouds to form incoherent shapes is it un-natural for the mind to not project onto the cloud from within itself. Even if the mind does not project a coherent geometric image it will still spontaneously attempt to form a geometric consistency. This is because it is the nature of the mind to do so.

This is a difficult topic to describe and I am not sure I done so adequately, but I hope it is understandable.

Hi Ben again,

I have had a chance to get some sleep so let me try again from a different perspective.

Let us say a tragic event has occurred. Let us say a parent loses their child. The “natural” tendency of a human is to react by crying due to this loss. This natural human reaction occurs due to the emotional attachment of the parent which creates the sense of loss when the child dies and this motivates tears to express the sense of loss. So when a parent loses a child crying is a natural response. Not crying while uncommon is not necessarily un-natural because it may also be a coping mechanism wherein the person numbs their feelings because the emotions are too large to handle. However, if one feels the impulse to cry and forces themselves NOT to cry, from one perspective this would be an un-natural act. In this circumstance un-natural would mean to go against a spontaneously arising expression of emotion. Since crying is a healthy expression of intense emotion the act of forcing oneself not to cry could be viewed as unhealthy and therefore un-natural. Since it is a tendency for humans to seek their own higher good and they are ignoring a process that brings into being this higher good it may also be seen to be un-natural from that perspective as well.

Now, due to a person’s temperament it may common for them to suppress their emotions, in other words it may be a natural process of their temperament to resist spontaneous expressions of emotion. So in this instance the suppression of emotion may be a natural act for this individual in that they are following their personality inclinations. However, since the act involves forcing emotions down against their natural tendency to be expressed it is inherently un-natural from one perspective while natural to the individual from another.

To a person viewing the tragic event from the Absolute perspective the impulse to cry “because” of the tragic event would not necessarily occur. This would be because the event is perceived from a perspective of understanding that no one actually died; death is a natural occurrence of life, the spirit is eternal, etc. This act of not crying would be considered natural because the same event is viewed from a different perspective and under this circumstance the need for emotional expression most likely would not occur as a reaction to the death. However, this person MAY still cry. In this circumstance the crying might be caused by compassion for the sense of loss experienced by those who are unable to perceive the event from the Absolute perspective. This occurs to me at times in my practice of Nursing. When I have a patient that dies, I am many time relieved for the patient. Perhaps they were in pain, perhaps they were ready to die, perhaps they were in a vegetative state, etc. I perceive the death as a release for the patient from their suffering. However, the family members who suffer the loss perceive the event as the loss of their beloved family member. When witnessing their pain and sorrow I am often moved to tears out of compassion for the pain they are experiencing.

These illustrations demonstrate to us that an act, event or process is natural or un-natural according to the perspective one chooses to view it and the reason or motivation behind "why’ the event or process occured. Sometimes when we use the term natural we are referring to “common” processes. That is, what is most likely to occur as observed over time. If an event occurs outside the anticipate time period and is statistically unlikely to have occurred we may refer to the event as un-natural from that perspective, but once again from the perspective of the Absolute, just the fact the event occurred means it occurred naturally.

My statement: “It is not a natural process of Tao to have a strict timeline for anything” refers to processes of growth as observed over time. The example I gave of puberty is an example that illustrates the point. While puberty occurs at a generally consistent period of time within the lives of all animals, it does not occur at the “SAME” time for “ALL” individuals. Within a general time period there is a wide fluctuation as illustrated by my two high school friends who had widely differing times of puberty. One was essentially done by aged 14 while the other didn’t even begin until around 18.

In Taoist thought acts are considered un-natural when they occur out of accord with the principles of wu-wei and tzu-jan. Wu-wei may be simplistically defined as “without effort” or according to the path of least resistance, while Tzu-jan may be simplistically defined as occurring naturally, or of its own nature. According to these principles, an act that does not occur naturally is one that is contrived, that is artificially modified by an act of will. Under this definition only man or sentient beings (as far as we know) may behave out of accord with Tao. This is because we have a will that allows us to choose actions there are contrary to the natural spontaneous flow of Tao. Within this we may consider a sub-set view that it is a natural expression of man to act against the flow of Tao and therefore it is actually a natural act and not an un-natural act to behave against the flow of Tao. This is a return to the Absolute perspective. At any rate an illustration of an act out of accord with Tao, a contrived or artificial act, would be to suspend ones time of puberty using artificial means such as drugs or to stimulate the arising of puberty using artificial drugs. Since the body has a natural process and that process is artificially tampered with, in this case without an imperative medical need for it, the act may be seen as contrived, out of accord with Tao and un-natural.

Scott,
That last post was brilliant. What do you do for a living? Are you a serious Taoist? Whats your educational background?

"Natural vs Un-natural has always been my test of truth for things. I put things back to and try to imagine “If I was on a deserted island my entire life what would I do?” It seems that some forms of meditation/practice would happen naturally and others would not. Although I never want to throw out the baby with the bathwater, or the immortal child with the purification ritual as the case may be.

When I was living alone in the woods and practicing meditation/Taiji for hours upon hours I was getting realizations/revelations about nature/natural-ness. I think I was getting tuned to Tao.

But the money ran out and now I am living in Detroit and still practicing meditation/Taiji for hours upon hours and I now get revelations/realizations on Egypt-Masonic connected conspiracies and all sorts of other crap. The past couple years I have really delved into the Catholic Way and meditate only in a Church with great sacred architecture. But now I am seeing connections and coorospondences everywhere I look nowadays to a world wide conspiracy. Even though I know its not real I still see it.

I just put in for a few weeks off in August to go commune with a Northern Michigan state forest. Next week I am going up for four day weekend (crazy this weekend) just for a brief hello. I think environment is king with regards to mysicism. We project too much of ourselves on the world and cities inflate the ego like nothing else. Since our mind interpret Tao I have learned to be extra careful.

So seriously are you a Taoist priest or something?

Darin

Hi Darin,

Thank you for your kind comments. I am just a regular guy with aptitudes and inclinations like yourself and many others, although mine are slightly different than yours. I am more of a contemplator, but I do meditate as well. I have studied Tao, Zen and Hindu thought since I was about 15 or so; also mythology, philosophy and other topics of interest to me. That makes it about 32 years now of study and application. I simply observe patterns and see how they apply to life. I am not a priest, but I probably would be a monk of some kind if the opportunity had wandered into my life and I could have done it while following my own path. I have two boys one soon to be 10 and one soon to be 15; divorced for 5 years and remarried for 1.

I have worked in many different jobs, but nursing is the one I do now. While I work as a nurse, I do not consider it my life and I do not gain any self-identity from it. It is merely a livelihood.

I do not consider myself a Taoist. This is because labels imply a fixed definition. If I say I am a Taoist it means one thing to one person and something else to another and even something else to me. None of these would be an accurate definition. Even labeling myself a student of Tao carries with it a definition, but it is more of an amorphous definition and humans want to give labels to one and other. If I had to label myself I suppose I would say I am a philosopher.

While I consider myself a student of Tao and a student of Zen I am also a student of life. As I have said, I observe patterns of life and try to see how they integrate into other patterns. It seems to be my natural inclination to do so and I was doing it spontaneously before I even knew I was doing it. At some point in my early 30’s or so the patterns started to make sense to me. That is the patterns seemed to integrate for me into an understandable cohesion. I have some college but never finished due to family responsibilities. I may return soon, or not, depending upon which way the wind blows.

I would try not to get too caught up with concerns about local or world-wide conspiracies. While they may be interesting to study, if they truly exist, there is nothing you can do about it and it will only cause fear, concern or distraction from more productive pursuits. Life is very much like the movie Matrix. There will always be a matrix or pattern of social control. I call it the world system. Life (man) would create one if one did not exist. This is because we require a relatively fixed pattern or context in which to relate to one and other. Once Tao became TWO, Yin and Yang, all forms of matrixes became inherent within nature. The division of the ONE into TWO was the first matrix. This is why the Tao Te Ching says, “…from two came three and from three came ten thousand things.” (verse 42). Groups of men may believe they control the world system, but in the end it all follows Tao, let them play in their own illusion. It is more productive to learn to rise above the matrix so it does not affect you. Be in the world, but not of the world, as it is said!

Remember that realizations should always be measured or tempered with reason. Some would disagree with this, but Yang (reason) carries equal value with Yin (direct experience). One does not prevail over the other; they are mutually arising. Experiences are integrated into our life using reason which allows us to discover a meaning that provides value or quality to the experience. If your experiences cannot be integrated into your life in a meaningful way their value is limited. Realizations that cannot be understood now may become understandable later in the light of greater experience and maturity. Realizations also change over time, their meaning frequently deepens. As we grow, an apparent Truth may appear to have changed; it hasn’t changed its meaning is merely understood within a greater context and this is may be considered a deepening of understanding.

Scott,

I wanted to address this one quote of yours- " I can say if you view your practice as too difficult to repeat it doesn’t seem worth the effort in the first place."

I dont have the ambition to repeat Basic Training or Ranger school again either. Doesn’t mean they weren’t worth the effort in the first place. Some things are just once in a lifetime things. In fact either would kill me again.

I just had to point this out because it might be the one place you were wrong and I need to salvage some pride to repair my ego.

Darin

Hi Darin,

No problem! :wink:

It was not my intention to be critical or discouraging, only to challenge what might be self-imposed limitations upon your capabilities. Perhaps my statement lacked some delicacy, for that I apologize!

So you not admitting you were wrong? I was mistaken again?:frowning:
Uhg…my pride hurts. I need a band-aid.

Hi Darin,

This is not a competition; it is only a friendly conversation between two individuals who share an interest in similar things. :slight_smile:

I do not expect to be correct about everything. All I can do is suggest things according to my limited understanding and knowledge. Perhaps I was wrong; perhaps I was right, that is not my concern. My concern is to stimulate you to think about it and perhaps consider your views from a different perspective. I really don’t know you so I cannot and should not tell you what to do or how to think. You must evaluate your views and the possible limitations you impose upon yourself. I am not challenging you personally, only challenging you to think outside your box. We all have our own self-imposed limitations. We are all trapped inside a box of our own making. The box serves a useful purpose, it provides us with a foundation and structure which we use to organize our thoughts, beliefs and goals, but it may also eventually trap us inside limiting our growth. Change and growth comes when we find ourselves in circumstances that challenge our fixed views and beliefs.

This circumstance is not unique to only you; it occurs with everyone, even me!! It is just that some of us understand the game and attempt to transcend it all the while understanding that to transcend it is to find ourselves inside yet another box that will eventually require transcending as well.

Try to have some fun with it! Think of is as a challenging game. Your views have been challenged. That does not make them wrong, but neither does it make them right. They are merely your views and goals. Remember that change and growth occur when we find ourselves in disequilibrium. If you are finding yourself in this circumstance, view it as an opportunity to grow in new and unanticipated ways. It can be fun, but also a bit scary too! The unknown is always a bit scary, but that is what makes life exciting as well. If we already knew everything there would be no surprises, no excitement no change and no growth.

Please do not think that I am not challenged or find opportunities for change and growth resulting from our conversation. I do, they may not be apparent to you, but they do exist!:wink:

I am off to bed now! I work nights so I need my nap, but I will be happy to continue our conversation later if you like.:slight_smile:

Scott,

Tonight I arrived at a birthday party of a stranger (to me) who was aquianted with a friend of mine. Around 12 of us were outside on the lawn singing him happy birthday and slicing up the cake when he mentioned that we would have a water balloon fight after the cake. Before I had registered his comments completely, a pink and blue ball flew past my head and struck someone nearby. The water balloon fight had begun (someone had taken it upon themselves to start chucking water balloons at the group of us) and we were getting hit left and right! Immediately after being nearly struck in the head the birthday boy and myself rushed the water balloon buckets (they had about 100 mini-balloons). Grabbed balloons and started tossing them, everyone joined in almost immediately following that and before I knew it, we were all soaked and tossing balloons wildly. It was a lot of fun and I really cannot remember the last time I was in a water balloon fight. Loved it!

Congratulations on the 1 year of marriage. You tied the knot again, good man! A teenager and a 10 year old, what a handful! Water balloon fights at their next birthday party! LOL!

Best Wishes

Hi Ben,

Thank you for the best wishes!

Water ballons!!! A most excellent idea! Their Birthday’s are July 2nd and July 3rd. They are exactlly 5 years apart and each other’s best friend. I have never seen two siblings get along so well. Almost never and argument. I am very blessed.

I’ll try to remember to let you know how it goes!!:slight_smile:

I probably shouldn’t post this yet since it is still a work in progress but I have already cut a vein in these posts so I might as well spread some of my soul as well. This is the introduction to a booklet I am putting together for my future Taijiquan classes. I am on a teaching break at the moment to finish or at least bring to conclusion my experiment in Taoist Alchemy.

Immortality

Taoists teach that we are not born immortal. Our souls are undifferentiated energy flowing from the source of all life everywhere sometimes called the Tao and returns undifferentiated after death to this original source. Our animating life energy is borrowed and it is not us. Much like we say that is my Bank because our money is there, but we do not own it. Likewise our minds are not immortal. They begin to form in the womb and only the strongest can endure after death, but even these only endure for a short time in their self created heavens and hells. Taoist alchemy teaches that immortality is something that must be achieved through the hard work of bringing into union the mind and the soul. It is the synthesis of the mind and soul that transforms the mortal physical body stage by stage into an immortal one.

Taoist Alchemy

Prerequisites: For the entire thirteen years you must abstain from meats, grains, sex, plus no losing your sexual essence in any either through self stimulation or dreams, and you must observe the continual practice of the ascending grades of meditation.

10 Months of deep breathing exercises and one pointed Dan Tien focusing meditation to transform sexual essence into Qi (internal energy) within the lower belly. Confirmatory signs- Begins with feeling the internal energy and controlling it with breath and intent to condense it into the bones and then lead it up the spine using the reverse flowing method into the head and to the pineal gland which produces a vision of blazing white light (achieved April 24th , 1994)

3 Years of eyes closed emptiness meditation transforming internal energy into internal power at the solar plexus. Confirmatory signs- Begins when a tiny spirit body comes from the belly and exits out of the forehead (achieved June 6th, 1994) that is the birth of the immortal child which then returns to the belly to be nurtured. Fifty days later after the birth of the baby shen a vision of the quintessence/original nature off all things is seen (achieved July 27th, 1994) and this achievement is the first stage of immortality according to Taoists. If all ends here you will be reborn after death to continue your practice with full knowledge of your past life Then at the end of the three year period the tiny body once again exits the forehead this time weaker and somewhat wispy. (achieved June 6th, 1997).

9 Years of eyes open mindfulness meditation being the calm center amidst the chaos of activity which begins with the alchemical process rising into the center of the brain where it transforms the internal power into Void - Confirmatory signs- Red Sparks blazing before the inner vision means the activity has moved from the lower elixir field to the middle one and at the end of the spray of sparks is an amber glow like a burning ember (achieved December 25th 1997). SPECULATION: Finally the void body exits the top of the head and enters a world of pure being and endless light. Upon the return of this small body which has absorbed some of that endless light, it transmits that light to the physical body and it too will radiate light transforming it stage by stage into a body of pure energy.

Greetings..

DarinHamel: Humble apologies if the referenced site offends you.. that was not my intention.. people see what they choose to see, i see a site that offers ancient and proven techniques for utilizing some of our most powerful energies.. you see offensive material… I suggest that you see past your prejudices and look for the wisdoms of energy cultivation and manipulation.. the Taoist and Buddhist Tantric practices are not dependent upon sexual practices.. the heightened sensual experiences are a by-product of the discipline, and.. considering that the human is “hard-wired” for sexual procreation, it is reasonable to expect a heightened awareness in this area..

I ask my students to recall how much physical activity they expend during their intimate encounters, then compare it to a workout at the gym.. Tantra is a discipline that seeks to utilize the incredible energies of our sexual nature in all aspects of living.. there are ways to make every activity as intense as the intimate ones.. it’s quite remarkable.. The site referenced uses the most common experience shared between humans, sexuallity, to illustrate the cultivation and careful manipulation of energies that can greatly enhance your experience of living.. but, it does not imply that “sex” will do that.. (it sure helps, though :wink: )..

I had hoped to offer you insights into very powerful energies and their usefulness in our everyday lives.. ways to conserve, cultivate and distribute those energies..

Now, i will offer some “Bobisms”… “God” is simply a word that points to supreme spiritual awareness, not some cosmic puppeteer".. “God” is a word that carries way too much religious and social baggage..

“God”?.. whose “God”? is one culture’s “God” superior to another".. religions are merely different cultural interpretations of simple spiritual awareness…

We are not these aging bodies, we are the eternal energy that animates them.. we are like snowflakes, unique patterns of exactly the same stuff.. energy/spirit/“God”.. We are ALL son’s (and daughters) of “God”, Jesus simply had the awareness and will to claim his birthright..

Scott is as grounded and responsible a poster as i have seen on these forums, you will do well to consider his commentary with an open mind.. and i agree with the aversion to labels.. the description is not the thing, do we eat the menu?

Be well…

Greetings..

Yikes!! i just read the post of your upcoming pamphlet..

In a great analogy by an author i can’t remember: You can engineer and build the world’s greatest bridge.. or, you can just walk across the waters.. the choice is yours alone..

Be well..