I am still searching for technical knowledge (exercises form, etc.), iof the Hap Ga/Lama Pai/ Pak Hok styles. I want to gain this information for my personal training purposes. I am seeking this in the form of training manuals, digital video, or VCD. I am perfectly happy to reimburse the efforts of anyone willing to assist me in accomplishing this as efficiently and expediently as possible.
Why don’t you just contact Steve Ventura or David Ross directly?
I have been in contact with them, communication has been cordial, but hit and miss. Perhaps those gentlemen might be of assistance. I would hope so, but I must explore and keep an open mind toward all options. Aquiring the knowledge is my primary goal, and nothing else.
I feel I must be willing to accept authentic knowledge from any source, whether it comes from a Hong Kong gangster, a Manilla street brawler, or a New York gym owner. The knowledge is the key, not it’s point of origin. When I face off with a mugger who’d snuff out my life for ten cents and a Timex, he’s not going to ask the lineage of the one who taught me the pau chui I hit him with.
Thank you fro addressing my request with a civil and positively constructive tone. In this you truly display martial ethics.
Lama Pai Master Chan Tai-San had a few from New York, you might want to try this Sifu.
Thank you Sang Feng Fan, for your response. I am 1500 miles from New York, but perhaps those you referred me to could suggest something that would be useful. Would that others who have posted on these threads could be as helpful as you. The mission would have been accomplished by now. By the way, I’ll keep the quote at the bottom of your post in mind when I recieve destructive responses.
May I use it?
Please feel free to quote anyone you like, including me.
lamakwoklee :
is evident you are a teenager or a person very inmature . is evident you don’t know nothing about kung fu . what is all that comic book dialogue about " The mission would have been accomplished " , " The knowledge is the key " ???
i am from southamerica and i know some lama pai forms and i have some material you could use , but i 'll never share with so arrogant person like you . do you really think you could find secrets of one of the most closed door policy kung fu systems through a magazine internet forum ? you are very crazy .
sang fen fang
your stupid quote about retarded people is a shame . special athlets are always a source of inspiration and faith for all .
i never see a thinking more low like yours .
Your grasp of English is very limited, the quote makes fun of those who argue here, not the mentally retarded.
You should stop criticizing people as a substitute for making intelligent contributions to the forum.
You also shouldn’t post in a language you do not grasp fully, it makes you look stupid.
My friends, GARRA DE TIGRE and Sang Feng Fan. I’ve met interacted with many different kinds of people on this message board. Some interactions have been positive. Some interactions have been negative.
All I can really write is that, the best way for us to speak is with mutual respect. We should be able to argue our points of view about the nature of martial arts without resorting to personal attacks against those with whom we share a love of the martial arts.
On my part, I extend the hand of friendship to all members of this board. I extend my hand even to those with whom I disagree. I am grateful to those who can contribute positive suggestions to me in my search for knowledge.
Thank you, GARRA DE TIGRE and Sang Feng Fan for your input, and I welcome further positive suggestions and assistance. 
hmm..Someone sounds condescending…I don’t see any problem with someone who is learning english trying to use it…I’ll bet your parents or grandparents sounded exactly like Mr. Garra, unless your ancestors are from England.
On the subject, contact David Ross, Steve Ventura, or David Chin in NC. You can try Sifu Ku Chi Wai or Kevin Kaley here in ATL (Atlanta, GA,) but I don’t think they teach anymore (Then again it’s been a little while since I was last there.)
Check out tibetankungfu.com. I know there is a manual around, but I don’t know anything about it..email the lama pai practicioner in England.
Peace
I thank you for your contribution HopGar. I realize how easy it is for good discussion to degenerate into a vicious tit-for-tat squabble. This is why I appreciate people like GARRA DE TIGRE, Sang Feng Fan and you, who go out of their way to write things that can help me.
I can’t afford to go to New York right now. But the instructrors you all have suggested have good reputations. I am particularly impressed with Sifu Gus Kaparos of Green Cloud Kung Fu. Perhaps one day I will be lucky enough to study Lama Pai under him. In the mean time I am depending on the generosity and kind assistance of the members of this board who can contribute material to my training.
There are actually three manuals in the English language on Hop Gar and Tibetan White crane that I’m aware of. These are: “Hop Gar Kung Fu” by David Chin and Michael Staples, “White Crane Gung Fu” by Michael Staples, and “White Crane Kung Fu vol.1” by James I. Wong and Ralph Caputo. There is also book titled “Tibetan Kung Fu, Way of the Monk” by Michael Staples.
The first three books are technical instruction manuals and the last one is a bit more theoretical and the only “technical” sections are on footwork and stances. Unfortunately, all three books are out of print and very hard to find.
Cerebus
No kidding. And if you do manage to find one, it’s going to cost you a crapload of money because they are so rare (way over 100 bucks.)
Diego, don’t you have some pages from Chin’s manual? (if you remember the site you had on yahoo/geocities from a few years ago)
Peace!
I actually have all the ones by Staples. I’ve been trying to get the one by Wong & Caputo for years now.
You have them? That’s pretty cool, I wish I was able to find stuff like that. Anyhow, I think the guy in England might have some of the manuals (his name is steve something or another, I can’t remember it now, it’s not ventura)
Peace!
Also, Sifu David Ross once had a set of videos out on Lama Pai. He mentioned that he may do some more now that he’s returned to teaching the traditional arts.
cerebus,
I remember that series of tapes. In fact, I owned one. I would’ve purchased more, but back then I was a teenager. That tape was lost years ago. I would dearly love to have that series of tapes now. I’ve been in contact with Sifus Ross and Ventura, but as they’re busy we’ve been playing phone tag.
The spirit in which which I first approached this board didn’t help my case(mea culpa). Neither did a bitter exchange with a fellow board member. However as I wrote, hope springs eternal. Perhaps those gentlemen are in a more forgiving mood. I’m exploring all avenues, and remain open to all options.
lamakwoklee:)
Originally posted by lamakwoklee
I would hope so, but I must explore
lmao you do sound like a robot like fupow mentioned…i must explore lol or at least dan akroyd in coneheads talking about defacation chambers and sh*t
peace
Forget you. Was that non-robotic enough?
Originally posted by HopGar
[B]You have them? That’s pretty cool, I wish I was able to find stuff like that. Anyhow, I think the guy in England might have some of the manuals (his name is steve something or another, I can’t remember it now, it’s not ventura)
Peace! [/B]
yeah i still got that geocities page kicking..The englishman you are refferring to is Steve Richards and he has a Lions roar book in the works…not sure when it will be complete
http://www.tibetankungfu.com/steve_richards_books.htm
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