i am thinking of starting to jog in order to bring up my endurance for performing forms and fighting… can anyone offer any advice on this? i have also been told that wind sprints are a better exercise for kung fu, does anyone do this sort of training?
thanks…
I do windsprints on my own. It has helped me immensely. I used to just straight out jog, which I still do because I enjoy it, but the windsprints helped me more because of the sudden bursts of speed then the quick recovery time, just like doing a form or sparring.
Remember, though, to thoroughly stretch after your jog/run.
Robin
Surrender yourself to nature and be all that you are.
huh?
I was thinking of jogging also to increase my endurance but whats a windsprint?
“The superior man hoards nothing. The more he uses for the benefit of others, the more he possesses himself. The more he gives to his fellow man, the more he has of his own.” Lao Tzu
its faster running..i think
problem with jogging
I can’t remember the correct terms, but weren’t there two different kinds of muscle fibres, fast and slow. Slow fibres are the ones needed for endurance and they’re developed by endurance training like jogging. Fast fibres gives you the speed and explosive power and those are the fibres you need in martial arts.. so. wouldn’t jogging be kind of a bad thing for kicking power?
Windsprints are when you start off with a jog at a comfortable pace to warm up, then sprint as fast as you can for a certain distance or time, then return to the comfortable jog to recover. For me, the sprint and jog are the same length of time rather than distance, as it takes more time to cover the same distance when you’re jogging as opposed to sprinting. In sparring, you only have the same amount of recovery time as you do with the spurts of attack/defense.
I do about ten sets of this per workout, and increase the time in order to improve. So, I start out sprinting for 20 seconds, then jog 20, and do that ten times. After getting used to that for a few workouts, I increase to 30 seconds sprinting and jogging. But, you can engineer your workout to however you want, but the basis of a windspring workout is to sprint fast then recover then sprint then recover then sprint then…
Robin
Surrender yourself to nature and be all that you are.
“I can’t remember the correct terms, but weren’t there two different kinds of muscle fibres, fast and slow. Slow fibres are the ones needed for endurance and they’re developed by endurance training like jogging. Fast fibres gives you the speed and explosive power and those are the fibres you need in martial arts.. so. wouldn’t jogging be kind of a bad thing for kicking power?”
premier, just to correct you, it’s Slow Twitch and Fast Twitch! 
Thank goodness for the 9th grade Personal Fitness I took this year! 
thanks for the tip, robin. i think that i will give the windsprints a try…
Running
Ran my first ever competitive race last night, a 7 miler, tough hilly course, managed to complete it well inside my target time of 49 minutes (7 minute miles) but was a bit p i s s e d off at the end because I run harder at the weekend on my own - I was too conservative with it being my first race. The winning times were about 10 minutes faster than me although I did come in the top half - there was a real spread of abililty and ages. Realistically I reckon I can get down to around 43-44 minutes before my natural lack of athletic ability kicks in. I would recommend entering these events just to see some of the women that enter too. This post has naff all to do with kung fu (did they censor naff ??) but wtf.
Sounds good. I like to come out of the gate fairly fast to get possition and then ease into a pace. This way I get good position and still have something left for the last lap.
running
hi just wondering i’ve been running about 2.5 kms every couple of days.
i find that my shin gets painful…my neighbour was telling me b4 about how some ppl get ‘splints’??? which means blood collects from the impact when u jog at the shin area and u have to massage it away and stretch it out otherwise long term u need surgery or something.
anyway any ideas? is this true?
any tips for getting rid of the pain in the shins?
i had a friend who was training for a marathon and he was running 30 kms or something a day. i find it pretty incredible :). i’m falling all over the place if i run to about 3km
well it’s true very much true…
i think u just started running n ur legs r not used to it…
this is way i run
run for 1 min brisk walking for 90 seconds do this about 7-8 times
then u can increase the running or decrease the timing of walking.
it helps without getting splints…
hav good warm up/stretching before running(i prefer around 15 minutes of stretching)
after running cool down slowly by ending up stretching again…
some good tips at runnersworld.co.uk
-TkdWarrior-
had shin splints when i used to play hardcourt tennis about 20 hours per week. doctor said to strengthen the muscles in the front of my shin. i did, the splints went byebye.
easy way to strengthen them – and i got results in just this – is to sit down normally, and straighten one leg out in front of you point your toes forward, then try to point them toward your head and extend your heel toward the wall in front of you. point the toes forward again, etc. do a set of 10 or 20, then switch legs. this is an easy exercise to build up strength in. once you can do a set of 50 or so, you’re about as good as you need to be.
hey thanks guys i appreciate your advice
i think i’ve been running closer to 3kms just did a bit of calc.
wasn’t doing much b4 that which probably explains why. this is my routine recently for jogging:
do my stretches, for about 10mins or so. then quick walk down to the park. and run around in rectangles. i start off pretty slowly
and then up it a bit and keep it steady till i’m on the last one or two laps where i run. the whole jog takes me about 18-20mins.
then i always warm down by walking around a bit or on the walk home and most times i stretch as well. massaging the shin area kinda helps but is a bit painful. so i’m going to give those exercises a shot.
i was also thiking of making the running a bit more varied. i was thinking of doing short 100m sprints then slow jog then sprint again. unfortunately after running i don’t usually feel like doing anything else and there isn’t anyone else around who i can work focus mitts with etc. i watched that kwoon training video where the kwoon guys try to do a training session that a professional san shou guy has to do in the US and i’m interested in doing something like that. do u guys do anything with your jogging?
i’d like to up my jog eventually to about 5kms and keep it at that.
its kinda boring running around a park aroudn and around and around.
its kinda boring running around a park aroudn and around and around.
lol tell me about it…
the time when i run is i m alone it’s around 4:15 in cold winter …
but i just do it for a good workout…
it’s important to vary ur running workout as it’s boring like like… (doh feels like lost words :))
well if u hav a freind who does marathon then get advice from him…no one can better tell u about running than those guys…
-TkdWarrior-
hey TKDWarrior
i checked out that uk website its pretty good. i particularly liked the rating of diffierent ground types. i’m probably never going to run on concrete or the pavement although the change in view would be nice. i think that website gave concrete a rating of 2 or osmething out of 10. i think the impact is too much and longterm won’t be good for my knees. i find that running on grass in the local park is tiring but the impact is less. i’ve tried running home on cement after running at the park and there is a big difference. so in order to retain the long term value in my legs etc and avoid injuries of which i have had my fair share of :)i’m sticking to the grass. thanks guohen for that pointer.
actually my friend eventually ran the 45 km marathon race. i think he did it in about 2.5 - 3 hours. i’ve talked to him about it b4 for some tips. mainly he talked about competing, preparation and the body, water, etc. the focus is a bit different from me. i just want to eventually run 5kms in half an hour and do that 2-3 times a wk
and thats it. i like combining it with swimming and kung fu training.
i’ll be working fulltime again soon so i will be going swimming during lunch or the gym, and training again after work either running or kung fu related stuff.
sorry for the ramble
another thing TKDwarrior
it is very boring running around a park. but the thing is i find i do better when ppl are there. its kind of ego related. i push myself by thinking ppl are watching me and counting the number of laps i’m doing so if i quit after doing only a bit i’m going to look bad. so i keep forcing myself to reach a goal. i also think its less boring when there are a few things to look around at as i run. its funny how strange thoughts go over in your mind as u run and your caught up in your own little world.
Friday, follow Gouhen’s advice about not running on hard surfaces until it’s completely healed. Also the stretching and massaging after running. Lucky for me, back in my running days (I don’t run very often nowadays because it makes my knees really sore if I do it too often) I never had shin splints because my tibialis anterior (the muscle on the front of your shins) was very strong from playing the drums. You’re constantly raising and lowering your toes to play the bass drum and hi-hat! Of course I recommend that everyone play a musical instrument to improve their martial arts practice!
But seriously, a couple of my friend suffered from shin splints and after they were healed I got them to just sit on a chair and raise and lower their toes for a few minutes a day (music is optional!) Both of them told me their shins were much better for it. Good luck!
hi guys
ran again today b4 going to a kf class. it seems better with the splints having run a few times now.
anyway wat do ppl think of me putting down the training i do everyday as a motivational tool as well as getting tips from ppl on kfo on this thread or a new thread. it’ll be like a diary. mite sound like a crazy idea but who knows it mite help me. i find its pretty hard to push myself sometimes.
is there anyrthing on breathing when jogging that i should know about? mite be a silly question.
also i’ve been bad today
i didn’t eat any breaky went for the run came home ate some sugary lollies and then went to kf class. after i ate a decent meal. but two hours later i’m feeling hungry again! i think i need a healthier diet! …i think i need more friends to talk to about this stuff lol.
sit in seiza and that will strengthen your ankles and shins… and for God’s sake, dont run on pavement, run on grass or dirt!