Originally posted by norther practitioner
Almost all my outside crecents would be thrown with the intent of getting around the shoulder and landing it in an axe kick motion… inside is like a slap with the bottom of the foot.
We make contact with the in-side of the foot or in-side of the shin. Outside/Spinning Outside crescent is the same, except we use out-side of the foot/shin.
I don’t know if I’m that precise with it yet.
Originally posted by norther practitioner
I don’t know if I’m that precise with it yet.
When you do Yi Lu Mai Fu and you come up from the sitting stance to start the second road, you do a left inside crescent kick with the leg straight, followed by a slap to the right foot, right? That’s how we throw crescents.
OK…
me too.. I’m just saying when I actually throw it sparring,
my roundhouse
I posted this before on another thread and might be appropriate here.
Note: this is just one way we thow it so please no “what if” questions regarding which leg and so on. Also to preempt the foot question, I have to adjust for the grass and dirt otherwise I would just turn the foot as I kicked.
I prefer the top of the foot as opposed to the ball, because I feel like I can get better power/accuracy out of it.
We chamber our crescents as well, due to the not wanting to telegraph that someone mentioned earlier.
Hip flexibility is definitely an issue. I don’t have any problems but I have a friend that has trouble turning his hip over - it starts to hurt after too many roundhouses in a row.
Originally posted by Becca
Nope. A cresent kick is done with a strait leg. You start it off exactly like a stiff leg swing aimed to the side of your target, then at the apex of your natural swig, you torq your hips in the direction (in or out) of you target to get the arc. Leg will return to it’s starting position naturally if you succesfully kick through or miss. Will turn your body to the side if you connect solidly, with sets you up nicely for a follow-up technique.
the few I know who do throw it that way have a tendency to put too much weight on their front leg when they return it to the ground. Makes leg kicking them a tad easier.
Originally posted by Judge Pen
[B]I’ve seen an outside cresent kick thrown with a chamber to get more of a whipping action to it, but the leg’s in the same position at the moment of contact as if it was thrown with a straight-line arc the entire time.[./b]
yes - that’s what I was referring to in the post about chambering the kick.
Originally posted by Swordless
I prefer the top of the foot as opposed to the ball, because I feel like I can get better power/accuracy out of it.
what about instep vs shin?
Crescent kicks are good for warming up, I think. I’ve never tried to use one in sparring, tho.
It’s like a leg lift except you bring your leg over (in or out) at the top to try and hit the guy, right? How much do you guys bend your knees?
Originally posted by SevenStar
what about instep vs shin?
Instep in that case b/c we never train specifically to hit with our shins, although I practice it on my own sometimes.
Then again, I’ve got a bag at home I can practice hitting with my shins, whereas we don’t have bags at the studio, only small focus mits, which we hit with the instep.
Originally posted by SevenStar
the few I know who do throw it that way have a tendency to put too much weight on their front leg when they return it to the ground. Makes leg kicking them a tad easier.
I have had people try it on me, but the cresent done right is a bit too fast to actually get in before the leg returns. Also, if you add a moon jump/bolck on the “return” you also avoid sweeps. This is a very expolsive technique, IME, and it’s very easy to morph into something else if you opponant correctly counters it.
what about the ax kick? Why do some styles like kyoukishin use it often and others don’t at all?
SevenStar thinks all kicks or attacks that aren’t muay thai suck I bet.
By the way, Becca ever try jumping in mid air with left low cresent kick and before you hti the opponent you just fake it and retreat your leg than come with the right high cresent kick while still in mid air to the face? I just developed this technique on my own I wonder if anybody else tried it?
It is not so much they don’t have it, as they don’t use it much. I know it’s part of Pai Lum, but called something else. (Can’t remember the name right now) I also know it is not taught untill the very highst levels, because it is believed that a student has a better chance of not being injured or causing injury at these levels.
Originally posted by Strangler
[B]SevenStar thinks all kicks or attacks that aren’t muay thai suck I bet.
By the way, Becca ever try jumping in mid air with left low cresent kick and before you hti the opponent you just fake it and retreat your leg than come with the right high cresent kick while still in mid air to the face? I just developed this technique on my own I wonder if anybody else tried it? [/B]
I have seen it used, but I am not bouncy enough to do it.
what I like to do is instead of throwing a thai kick to my opponents legs I throw a cresent kick except my toes are pointed straight. I hit with the toes or the part of the foot that comes after the toe, and I do it to the side of my opponents kneecap area or where the joint is. It’s longer distance and stings/hurts, and you wont have to worry about them blocking it by raising their leg because even if they raise their leg you could still hit them with it. It also works to the inside of their kneecap.
I also like throwing ax kicks in all directions and form both legs. Sometimes it gets raised from right side and sometimes I raise it from the left. I also don’t fully extend it until the end when I drop it down on them.
How do you get training partners?!? You are definantly talking street fighting, but not of training, right? If you are just going out and trying this on opponants out on the street, I’d have to causion you against the knee cap thing. Eventually, the cops are going to catch you fighting just for the fun of it, and crippling someone will get you lots of jail time.
Better to train safe, gain skills, and only use them for pure self defence.
NO I was talking about sparring. I am not kind to my sparring partners, we go all out 100% sometimes so when they hit me hard and **** me off I unleash the furry, lol. Another move I forgot that I like to do is a low kick with the foot in a inside horizontal posision aiming straight at the knee, it’s kind of like a low kick I use to set up another kick or a punch.
Originally posted by Strangler
[B]SevenStar thinks all kicks or attacks that aren’t muay thai suck I bet.
By the way, Becca ever try jumping in mid air with left low cresent kick and before you hti the opponent you just fake it and retreat your leg than come with the right high cresent kick while still in mid air to the face? [/B]
jumpy people are fun
ever have anybody sweep your feet out from underneath you while you’re in the air? I love doing that.