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[QUOTE=bawang;1296081]hi guyse how to is kick wark[/QUOTE]
You actually don’t have a clue, do you?
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[QUOTE=bawang;1296081]hi guyse how to is kick wark[/QUOTE]
Inside Out Confusion.
According to this article in Taekwondo there is no such thing as an Inside Crescent or Outside Crescent Kick,
The “My outside arcing to opponent” or “outside to inside” is a crescent kick (bandal chagi).
The “My inside arcing to opponent or “inside to outside” is a hooking kick (golcho chag”) or perhaps (My vertical standing inside arcing to opponent)
Confusing Terminology: Crescent Kick, Vertical Kick, Hooking Kick, Hook Kick
Some common kicks that are confused include the crescent kick and inward vertical kick, and the hooking kick, outward vertical kick and the hook kick, and add to that the reverse turning kick and reverse hook[ing] kick.
The crescent kick (bandal chagi) and hooking kick (geolchyeo chagi)][/B] are both defensive techniques in ITF Taekwon-Do; in other words, these kicks are used to block an opponent’s attack.
The following points may help to clear up some confusion with regard to these kicks. A crescent kick is always done with an inward arc. There is no such thing as an outward crescent kick. An outward crescent kick is basically a hooking kick. Similarly, a hooking kick is always done with an outward arc. The crescent kick and hooking kick are only used as blocking techniques. They are not offensive techniques. The mix-up comes in because these kicks are often confused with vertical kicks.
And then it gets really clear :rolleyes: the nearly the same motions are now vertical kick (Sewo Chagi) when used as attacks.
Inward Vertical Kick
Vertical kicks are similar to the crescent kick and hooking kick as they also move in a somewhat arc motion. The chief difference is that vertical kicks are offensive techniques; in other words, they are used for attacking and not blocking. The vertical kick (sewo chagi) gets its name because the foot is held upward, i.e. vertically; although it actually strikes the target in a horizontal fashion. Imagine keeping your hand vertically and then slapping someone horizontally through the face; now translate that image to a kick.
The vertical kick can be done in an inward motion, known as an inward vertical kick, or outward motion, known as an outward vertical kick. For the outward vertical kick the foot sword is used as the attacking tool, while the reverse foot swordthat is the area on the inverted side of the foot swordis used as the attacking tool for the inward vertical kick. Unlike the crescent kick and hooking kick which are usually done low and middle section, the vertical kicks can be done at any height, but usually at middle and high sections. Practitioners often use the vertical kick at high section to attack the opponent’s head, slapping them through the face with the foot.
So the outward Vertical kick is like an inside to outside crescent kick
and the inward vertical kick is like an outside to inside crescent kick
.. and he goes on to say there is confusion between Hooking Kick and Hook kick
I have a hardcover copy of Taekwondo By General Choi Hong Hi (Pub ITF).
Says exactly the same as the above by inference. Only the Crescent Kick and a Hooking kick (“golcho chagi” different spelling) are defined and illustrated as such.
And the vertical kick is defined and illustrated as above and is inside to outside and the outside to inside is simply called “Reverse Footsword”.
The footsword is the blade of the flat foot.
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Outside versus Inside
Now to make matters worse, scanning the internet, I see inside and outside crescent kicks definitions are reversed by some people.
Some say one kick is the inside crescent kick and others demo that same kick and say it is the outside crescent kick
Taekwondo Outside Crescent Kick Tutorial (Kwonkicker)
//youtu.be/kXqJmBzT6PQ
(Outside to inside)
Taekwondo Crescent Kick Tutorial (Outside) for MMA & Kickboxing | 60fps
2 crescent kick single leg defense
(In this video he say’s “inside crescent kick” technique looks a little dubious to me or the demo is not well done )
They say "Outside to inside kick and refer to it as “Outside Kick”.
Mirror Universe
Crescent Kick Tutorial - Inside & Outside (Standing, Spinning & Jumping)
(In the first 20 seconds: both kicks definitions are shown)
Outside Crescent Kick - Hapkido
Steve Sexton teaching Hapkido inside crescent Kick
Outside Crescent Kick
some of them say "outside to inside kick and refer to it as “inside kick”
So actually you might be discussing outside crescent and someone is thinking inside crescent.
And so on and so on. The latter looks more common , there were some more examples of the former.
There is more power can be generated with the crescent kick and/or vertical inside kick than the hooking kick and/or vertical outside kick because the weight of the body as a unit can be thrown in with it over a longer distance. (Using the ITF terminology).
As with any developing language. Terminology can change. I have long since forgot almost all the limited Korean I knew as part of learning TKD. Aside from tradition it served no purpose to know another language to do any of it.
My long ago Sa bum nim .
Circualr low kicks
So my point about "confusing terminology’ is that iwe can’t be sre what peopel mena if they just usse teh labes "outside or insid e crescent kick. t woudl be better if peopel descibed the kick as well as using the lavbel so we can understnd which kick they are talking about if we are not wathcing a demo.
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Low Circular Kicks from Vertical Standing
So my point about "confusing terminology’ is that I’m not certain what people mean if they just use the labels “outside” or “inside” crescent kick. It would be better if people describe the kick as well as using the label so I can understated which kick they are talking about if we are not watching a demo.
Circular low kicks
Here are two low circular low kicks from Hapkido They are both using the idea of kicking out at an angle varying degrees from center and circling back in the same motion as the high kicks , the crescent and inside vertical kick.
Hapkido low kicks
At :48 to 1:02 seconds he shows the low Hapkido inside to outside hooking kick usually done into the groin or thigh and circling out. The Hapkido kick connects with the thigh into the groin or between groin and knee and the opponent’s leg collapses outward. If you kick in and outwards the opponent is unbalanced. This can be done in standing grappling/grabbing. It is very effective. You have be be very careful with practicing with a partner not to endanger their knee as the leg buckles outwards.
At 1:24 to 1:40 seconds he shows the circular low outside to inside kick coming back in and striking the back of the opponents leg or knee, So it’s outside to inside but come back against the back of the knee with heel. Again it is very effective in taking down the opponent. In partner practice the sole of the foot is used against the back of the knee rather than the ball as the ball is too dangerous. I know one guy got taken down with the ball of the heel in the back of his knee and it damaged his knee for a long term problem Put a wedge at the back of the knee and it has no place to go when the leg is compressed, it must be damaged, dislocate or break.
So both are short range or short range grabbing or grapplings. They are more for a viscous kind of self defense than for sparring. They are in the basic idea of standing vertically with kicks going out to the side and circling at the end point . Thee are just done low as compared to high.
Lotus Kick Mantis Boxing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H5BIBrXvMY
Here the demonstrator show something like the low hooking kick of Hapkido from inside to out - but he actually kicks the groin and doesn’t circle outwards to unbalance his opponent . He shows the outward hook motion in demonstration but he I think he is more intent on the kick rather than unbalancing.
Well yes. I see your point. I think most people posting in this thread are of the same mind with the inside outside cresent kick. Perhaps it is a generic English term and being English it can have many meanings- ****nyms , LOL. But you are in fact correct and I agree fully.
Cresent Kick Application
[QUOTE=boxerbilly;1297082]Well yes. I see your point. I think most people posting in this thread are of the same mind with the inside outside cresent kick. Perhaps it is a generic English term and being English it can have many meanings- ****nyms , LOL. But you are in fact correct and I agree fully.[/QUOTE]
It was because I didn’t know which definition the people in this thread were using that I researched the subject.
Kung Fu : Double Outside Crescent Kick
I think in ITF this would be called a outside vertical kick.