http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxuGuCMsySI
I dont know much about whats shown but it seems to belong to one of the Siu Lam Weng Chun Families. This is would make it none Young Spring Boxing but Everlasting Spring Boxing.
Kind Regards,
Xian
Very basic approach to the Rattan Ring imo not at all what I would suggest. Looks like it’s a drill of a few things thats been made into a form for Wushu competition 
At around 1:40 in the clip below is my take on the rattan ring for Wing Chun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfOfpdn75RA
[QUOTE=Phil Redmond;1105368]At around 1:40 in the clip below is my take on the rattan ring for Wing Chun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfOfpdn75RA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2ZwYDbSK1k[/QUOTE]
I will look through my Flystudio clips coz I’m sure that I have yapped about how I approach the rattan ring when I was entertaining my martial cousins from Germany and Austria!!
Mind you, lately on here I get the impression that everything I post is being jumped on by the WSL PB Brigade :eek:
Sad but true…
[QUOTE=LoneTiger108;1105485]
Mind you, lately on here I get the impression that everything I post is being jumped on by the WSL PB Brigade :eek:
Sad but true…[/QUOTE]
There is a bloody good reason for that mate!!!
Rattan rings are good for hanging clothes on and a like. Not for Ving Tsun Kung Fu!!! ;)
GH
[QUOTE=Graham H;1105499]Rattan rings are good for hanging clothes on and a like. Not for Ving Tsun Kung Fu!!! ;):D[/QUOTE]
Wow 
You’re becoming oh sooooooooo predictable
What is it they say?
You don’t miss what you don’t know
[QUOTE=LoneTiger108;1105553]Wow You’re becoming oh sooooooooo predictable
What is it they say?
You don’t miss what you don’t know :D[/QUOTE]
You dont miss what you don’t know.
So you add flag waving, rattan rings of death, grappling pole ,
And more !
[QUOTE=k gledhill;1105611]You dont miss what you don’t know.
So you add flag waving, rattan rings of death, grappling pole ,
And more ![/QUOTE]
I don’t think that’s the issue at all, the way I see it. I have never
used the rattan ring; I have seen one lineage that uses the rattan
ring. Master Mijiwang I think his name is. I think the real issue is, does using the rattan ring improve either
wing chun skill or fighting skill. I do not know the answer to that.
[QUOTE=trubblman;1105646]I don’t think that’s the issue at all, the way I see it. I have never
used the rattan ring; I have seen one lineage that uses the rattan
ring. I think the real issue is, does using the rattan ring improve either
wing chun skill or fighting skill. I do not know the answer to that.[/QUOTE]
does the rattan ring improve VT skills ? no
Does Spencer also do flag waving, rattan rings of death, pole grappling and more ? yes
[QUOTE=k gledhill;1105656]does the rattan ring improve VT skills ? no
Does Spencer also do flag waving, rattan rings of death, pole grappling and more ? yes :D[/QUOTE]
You did not say that it does not improve fighting skill. I know nothing of pole grappling, flag waving etc. Sounds very ceremonial though.
[QUOTE=k gledhill;1105656]does the rattan ring improve VT skills ? no
Does Spencer also do flag waving, rattan rings of death, pole grappling and more ? yes :D[/QUOTE]
Ok you’re so funny Boring but funny! :rolleyes:
No point in even trying to shed any light on the purpose and benefits of actually training with the rattan ring. Not here anyhow.
One thing though, if you’re a ‘line’ man or a ‘triangle’ man then you should look into the ‘circle’ man! The Tungwan (rattan ring) assists in this training, but I will keep it safe with my fire flags and lightning blades!! 
[QUOTE=trubblman;1105665]You did not say that it does not improve fighting skill. I know nothing of pole grappling, flag waving etc. Sounds very ceremonial though.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I guess it is very ‘cultural’. Something my own Sifu takes much pride in teaching and sharing. And believe it or not, it’s all Wing Chun! 
[QUOTE=trubblman;1105665]You did not say that it does not improve fighting skill. I know nothing of pole grappling, flag waving etc. Sounds very ceremonial though.[/QUOTE]
It does not improve VT fighting skills. If you watch the clip you will see that the guys elbows are so wide just so he can keep the thing from falling off…
What do you really think of this?
http://www.youtube.com/user/FLYstudio108
Granted, I’m only messing about with my Wing Chun cousins but I try to explain a little about the rattan ring! Experimenting I guess
[QUOTE=LoneTiger108;1106070]http://www.youtube.com/user/FLYstudio108
Granted, I’m only messing about with my Wing Chun cousins but I try to explain a little about the rattan ring! Experimenting I guess ;)[/QUOTE]
Did Lee Sing teach you that ?
[QUOTE=k gledhill;1106073]Did Lee Sing teach you that ?[/QUOTE]
Oh so funny
But no he didn’t. It was my Karate Sensei when I was ten
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iDHot8fm20
"FLYfilm No.4
Wing Chun Rattan Rings
Another little discussion with my European cousins where I try to explain the Wing Chun Rattan Ring! In the short time we had I feel that enough was done to put across the idea at least. Of course, this is all just speculative for most Wing Chun people, beacuse the Ring is usually used in a different manner, and in most cases not at all.
Holding a rattan ring is just as important as understanding its limitations. They vary in size, so be aware of the changes to distance. I personally see many empty-hand examples of this equipment method within the second form, Chum Kiu."
For anyone who wants to discuss what I’m sharing, I’m here.
But for those who just seem to be stalking me on here with negative and sometimes personal attacks, just go play with your self for a while. You know you want to.
Wow! Checking Youtube to see how my clip was doing and I found more Rattan Ring clips
They’re more popular that I initially thought but I have yet to check out what everyone is doing…
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=wing+chun+rattan+ring&aq=f
Let us know what you think
Spencer the circle punching ? Like a hoola hoop, fun, but no practical value.
[QUOTE=LoneTiger108;1106163]Oh so funny
But no he didn’t. It was my Karate Sensei when I was ten
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iDHot8fm20
"FLYfilm No.4
Wing Chun Rattan Rings
Another little discussion with my European cousins where I try to explain the Wing Chun Rattan Ring! In the short time we had I feel that enough was done to put across the idea at least. Of course, this is all just speculative for most Wing Chun people, beacuse the Ring is usually used in a different manner, and in most cases not at all.
Holding a rattan ring is just as important as understanding its limitations. They vary in size, so be aware of the changes to distance. I personally see many empty-hand examples of this equipment method within the second form, Chum Kiu."
For anyone who wants to discuss what I’m sharing, I’m here.
But for those who just seem to be stalking me on here with negative and sometimes personal attacks, just go play with your self for a while. You know you want to.[/QUOTE]
Two concerns/questions for you lonetiger, please don’t take wrongly because I have respect for your passion of wing chun
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it appears that punching with that develops bad habit of hammer punching and not straight punch
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you have the right concept of punching out and pulling other arm back at same time with equal tension but with the rattan ring your arms are side by side for a second which cancels out the idea.
Also if the ring is supposed to represent the center line when doing other techniques, it inherently causes you to not be facing with your triangle structure which causes you to rely on arms alone which makes it more just gung Fu and less wing chun
Some lineages use the Rattan ring to develop “whirlpool energy.” I have no idea what that is, but have seen it referenced a number of times.
For my money, Iron rings are where it’s at.