Point Fighing Ref almost Kills Kung Fu Guy

About 2:20 in…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ge9CuM1YkE&feature=player_embedded

Did he sneak up and give him the vulcan death grip?!:eek

In seriousness, what a *****. The guy in white actually threw the first sucker punch and the guy in blue reacted probably out of anger, certainly not a way to handle that situation. Guy in white must have benn the ref’s student.

Old clip, really old I remember discussing that over on Bullshido years ago.

Sometimes a man has to open up a can of whoop ass !!

i remember seeing this one a while ago.

a douche for sure but you still have to admire his effectiveness in his sneak attack. he dropped taht guy and ended his conciousness in about 1 second. my fave part is how he instantly walks away after the head stomp.

[QUOTE=Lucas;974502]i remember seeing this one a while ago.

a douche for sure but you still have to admire his effectiveness in his sneak attack. he dropped taht guy and ended his conciousness in about 1 second. my fave part is how he instantly walks away after the head stomp.[/QUOTE]

Old school.
:smiley:

[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;974507]Old school.
:D[/QUOTE]

ill say. also a good prime example of momentarily disabling someone through ‘low percentage’ techniques.

all be it through a suprise attack from behind…but thats the idea in the first place isnt it…

[QUOTE=Lucas;974509]ill say. also a good prime example of momentarily disabling someone through ‘low percentage’ techniques.

all be it through a suprise attack from behind…but thats the idea in the first place isnt it…[/QUOTE]

On the battlefield, there is no excuse for surprise !!!

Both of those guys needed to get THE STOMP ™.

[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;974511]On the battlefield, there is no excuse for surprise !!!

Both of those guys needed to get THE STOMP ™.[/QUOTE]

lol ya. im guessing if the guy in white was his student, he got his lesson in a bit more of a private setting. who knows, maybe there was no connection and he only saw the guy in blue swinging.

First, I like the intensity level of that karate sparring. Good power. Head seamed like a legal target and no gear! … though see how awkward the start-and-stop nature of “point” sparring is. The man in blue had much more fight spirit and kpt backing the guy up causing stoppage… better learning if they could go hit a wall and finish or hit ropes/cage and make the other defend.

But the other guy had some nice technique too. He wasn’t a bum.

Now for that attack: sick! He dropped that guy lack a sack of potatoes.

Crazy to kick a guy participating in something like that in that in the face while he’s down. I hope that guy sues him for everything he got, forcing the family into a state of destitution and his daughter onto an upcoming bukake video.

[QUOTE=Ray Pina;974522] his daughter onto an upcoming bukake video.[/QUOTE]

LOL!!!

that was hillarious man. it was sick though wasnt it?

I read somewhere that the ref is a karate master. All this happened in Brazil apparently. I believe that the ref has since apologized for his actions, not that it would excuse his behavior.

I agree with Lucas that the ref was effective and probably a bad ass. I hope that this man has evolved since then.

HW108

i bet that guys pushin 60, so i doubt it. hes probably just one of those hard ass types.

If I am remembering this right, the guy was not a referee. His student was competing and the other guy had struck him after they were to break. The guy got hacked off and assualted him. I think he and his students were banned from compitition for a year or 2.
This attests to the effectiveness of Karate as well as other forms of fighting. The other guy never expected a sensai from another school to do something like that. It is poor sportsmanship at the very least.

[QUOTE=Lee Chiang Po;974595]If I am remembering this right, the guy was not a referee. His student was competing and the other guy had struck him after they were to break. The guy got hacked off and assualted him. I think he and his students were banned from compitition for a year or 2.
This attests to the effectiveness of Karate as well as other forms of fighting. The other guy never expected a sensai from another school to do something like that. It is poor sportsmanship at the very least.[/QUOTE]

Well, he was clearly refereeing the match. Other than that, I don’t know…

When I was in karate, both of those guys would have been disqualified. The guy in white for his first act of unsportsmanlike behavior and then blue for following his lead… blue had his number. Should have shrugged it off, used a kick to close the distance and hit him a few times again.

[QUOTE=cerebus;974596]Well, he was clearly refereeing the match. Other than that, I don’t know…[/QUOTE]

He was indeed refereeing the match. I forget why he was appointed to that job, but I remember seeing it on TV when it occured. He was the sensai of the guy in the dark gi. This is the problem with supposed full contact fighting. Full contact is just that, and people get hit and often times get hurt. They get hacked off and others take sides in the matter. If it is done any other way it is not full contact. Full touch?
I suspect that this is why we see UFC guys hugging after a fight. It is an exibition of sportsmanship. It sort of eases the feeling some people might get about watching 2 men or women pound on one another. We know that some of these guys hate each other. That way they can refer to it as a friendly compitition.
Then again, maybe not.
Back when you made points on no contact techniques, before full contact, late 60’s or early 70’s, There was a white belt fighter that fought his way up through the compitition and even defeated some black belts. This hacked off lots of people because it was just not supposed to happen. No black belt would want to be whipped by a white belt. The white belt had a few moves that he practiced to perfection. He did not have near the arsenal of the black belts, but he pointed them out. More than anything I think this sort of pushed toward full contact eventually. If you are going to compitition fight you need to do it right. The more rules you have the less like real fighting it is, but you do have to have rules. The first time someone gets killed or perminently brain damaged you will see all sorts of legislation taking place. Big brother is going to look out for you, like it or not.

LCP

[QUOTE=MasterKiller;974487]About 2:20 in…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ge9CuM1YkE&feature=player_embedded[/QUOTE]

Actually, they were both Karate fighters. I have been surfing utube a lot lately, and from what I have seen, I can see why some think kung fu is bs. I watched a young man walk around a tree for a while, then stop and walk around it the other direction for a while, then over and over and over. He held his hands in a position as if saying, WHAT? I have no idea just what he was training, but I did not see martial applications. Then there was the old man walking in a figure 8 and now and then doing something like a kick or punch. I even watched some compitition kung fu where the guys were doing forms. I could not see martial applications in any of it. Mostly like Elvis Presly posing for the camera. Doing cart wheels and flips and all sorts of stuff like we see on TV. None of this is really applicable in a real fight. I found one that I wanted to post here, but couldn’t figure out how. It was called Insane Kung Fu. The guys and gals ran around screaming like they were on fire and beating the heck out of everything with chains, sticks, pipes, and even grabbing and biting the face. That had some real potential I think. It would scare the heck out of most people, and it did not require you to learn any fancy moves. I admit that I am not familiar with most of todays kung fu styles, and so cannot accurately compare them to anything I know about. I can say however that I can quickly see why someone would discount kung fu as a viable fighting system. As compared to Karate and other more aggressive looking styles. I do Wing Chun and have no knowledge of other forms of Kung Fu. It is made of pure fighting concepts without fancy or sexy postures or other wastes of time or energy. However, like any other fighting system, it requires a martial attitude to make it work for you.

LCP

[QUOTE=Lee Chiang Po;974622]I do Wing Chun and have no knowledge of other forms of Kung Fu. [/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Lee Chiang Po;974622] It is made of pure fighting concepts without fancy or sexy postures …

LCP[/QUOTE]

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what’chu talkin bout,Willis?

Greetings,

That ref has a beautiful front snap kick. If that was his student he was kicking, his school must be totally badass. His student was pretty good, too.

mickey