yeah
It does seem like there are maybe some other things added to the system, like a northern Shaolin/Long Fist element, as well as Pigua.
form
There are different uses of the word “form”
On the Tai Shing Pek Kwar page, the link says “hand forms”. Looking at the still photos, obviously the usage is the “form” of the hand, not necessarily an entire form as in a series of moves.
Another use is for a short series of moves. As in “Tai Chi 24 forms”.
These people, just like the Paulie Zink camp, are secretive about the actual monkey or “Tai Shing” part of the art. I doubt you would get a forms listing because of that, although they do share the Pek Kwar and other borrowed styles.
Hope this helps
yes, and thanks
I was wondering about the tao lu or kune forms, the hand forms, of their pigua, not their secret monkey stuff.
I just wanted to see what their pi kwa had in common with the mainland and Taiwan schools of pi kwa.
I’m not interested in secretive, hyped stuff. Unforunately, I’m a grown up:)
so I’ve received no reply from the school so far
Does this mean you have to buy one of their tape series to get a reply? Anyone know?
It is true that Si Tai Gong Kan Tak Hoi learned other forms, but they are not really Tai Shing Pek Kwar. Si Gong Chan knows a lot of forms and techniques. A lot of it isn’t TSPK, but he teaches it because he feels it helps the student.
hi richie - thanks
Wouldn’t whatever he knew automatically become part of the system - he is the system at this point.
Are you one of his students?
richie - one more thing
Can you name the Pek Kwar fist forms in the system?
carly, I used Buddhapalm link to the page I think you were trying to present when you went Ahem.
There were thirty-nine phrases near the top. There were some framed images in two columns after that.
One called Shaolin Master said that there was:
Baguazhang
Xing Yi Quan
TaiJi Quan
Shaolin Quan
Mian Quan (Cotton Fist) :another name for taiji.
Yan Qing Quan : After the Hero Yan Qing
Mi Zong Quan (Lost Track Fist) : Another name for Yan Qing Quan.
I wondered which number phrase was each of these names…i.e. TaiJiQuan was the nineth phrase…
I’ve given up on this
the site doesn’t seem to be active.
That seems to be a list of various styles rather than of forms.
TSPK
Hi Carly,
I was wondering why you wanted to know the listing of Pek Kwar forms ?
I myself wish to know too, just in the offchance that some of my forms are Pek Kwar forms, or shared forms of their school.
You know there is a listing of PekKwar (Pigua) forms on another site. Features Black Tiger Fist, Wind Demon Staff and others. Do you want me to find the link for you ?
I have had very little luck from TSPK site. Was told to buy the tapes and I can compare, otherwise no assistance really.
TSPK has two site, one is active and one inactive.
There are some Pigua VCD’s available now from China. I purchased the Miao Dao and sampler ones. Looks like my Miao Dao routine a little. I am sure I have some PeKKwar/Pigua in my schools curriculum.
Cheers
Buddhapalm
hi Buddha palm
Yes, I’d like to see any links you can share - also, what is the address of the active tspk site?
I’m just curious about the style - it’s a famous one, and now that we have the internet and a way to learn more about things that were once only as vague as rumors and legend, it’s nice to be able to get some information from the authoritative source.
sites
Here is a little:
http://www.cyberkwoon.com/html/article.php?sid=188
Tongbei-pigua:
http://cclib.nsu.ru/projects/satbi/satbi-e/martart/wushu/moslems/pigua.html
I will try to find the active TSPK site a little later.
Isn’t the net a great tool my friend.
Cheers
Buddhapalm
thanks, yes the net is wonderful if you are curious by nature
and yes, I’d like the active pek kwar site’s address, if there is one.
I believe this is the active site:
http://www.taishingpekkwar.com/
Forgive me if its the wrong one.
Buddhapalm
I guess they’ve changed since moving to Canada?
I had no problems reaching Grandmaster Chan or his son when i e-mailed them.I got a quick reply from Master Chan Kai Leung himself.This was either during their move to Canada or right before their move.
He never once told me i had to buy anything or needed to subcribe to anything either.He did suggest that i come to the school to learn Tai Shing Pek Kwar from he or his father if i wanted to seriously learn the system.He did’nt even mention the video learning course.He said because at this time there is no one approved by his father to teach TSPK in the U.S.Although he does have students in the U.S. they are not at the level to teach the system yet.You must first master Pek Kwar before you are taught the The Monkey System.
jeff:)
oh, yeah, I’ve seen this
a lot of energy or focus seems to go on this discrediting of lineages.
But at the bottom are links to pek kwar and Tai S___ pek kwar.
It’s not discrediting of the lineage. It’s straightening out the Actual lineage. It is not saying Tai S___pek kwar is bad because the people talking are from that lineage. And supposedly the rightful say and are merely cleaning house in the public eye.~
Go to the bottom of the link there are two dark blue/purple links to that for which you’ve been asking.
Pigua Quan oh yea!
I just got blown away by a guy showing me Pigua Quan. Wow! That art is right up my ally…
I like it!
Anyone here on this forum do it?
WuTang
Yes sir go to my links page, or better yet go to www.wutangcenter.com
Grandmaster (my master) Yang Xiao Dong and all of his incredible Kung Fu Brothers have the key to this art bar none.
Darkfist