Physical therapist teaching Tai Chi?

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That’s because you decided to try to second guess a post of mine.

Posters = They won’t get the full benefit of tai chi… etc etc

Me = Well, all they really need is to move their joints through large ROMs and to stretch their muscles. Tai Chi does this and is why PT man is teaching it. The mysticism sure helps too.

You=True, but qi qong can work better… blah blah blah

It was off the topic from what I stated. If you want to address optimal methods for this or that, I’d be happy to oblige. I’m just saying you decided to use a post of mine as a jumping board to further your personal opinions. I’ll call you on that anytime you do.

I strongly disagree with your last point: there is an entirely different perspective that, if YOU had any clinical experience (which I take it that you don’t), you would be able to appreciate, and, in my experience implementing it, actually leads to an even higher percentage of patient compliance and capacity for self management than enticing them with some sort of mystical carrot on a stick; but as that would also be off topic, I won’t get into it;

anyway, I hope that you will enjoy the on-topic extended discussion that will no doubt follow as soon as I stop corrupting this thread…

Feel free to keep miscontruing my posts if that makes you feel better. It’s better to jump to conclusions than get clarification anyway… :rolleyes:

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Not disagreement, but using it as a platform to spin the thread. If you want to do that then choose somebody else to quote thanks.

a pretty reductive and innacurate summary; and what’s with the “blather” and “blah blah blah”? what need to characterize my comments in that derisive manner? you are one disrespectful dude, and for no reason, really - you seem to be taking this a bit personally…

Yes. You take what I say as an insult and get your panties in a bunch, but I’m the one taking it personally. Brilliant.

was it THAT off topic? I mean, it’s not like I started going on about the benefit of jogging or swimming; and “further (my) personal opinions” - what do you think, that I have some agenda I’m trying to impose on people? and what, your posts are not your personal opinions?

It’s like somebody making a thread about how fun snowboarding is, and then you pipe in with something about how in your experience skiing is better or how bmx’ing is better. I guess I just don’t understand what compels people to spin thread topics just so they can add their opinion. That’s all.

as for “calling me” on anything, please, don’t make me laugh - all you’ve done is disagree that I should have brought qigong into the discussion, which, quite frankly I don’t see the problem with - I don’t feel “called” on anything…

Where did I disagree with anything you said? The only qualm I have is you changing topics.

so, in what way have I misconstrued your post or jumped to a conclusion? I disagreed that the use of “mysticism” was an appropriate and productive way to get patient compliance - what part didn’t you understand? you said ALL people would be helped by mysticism - quite frankly, most patients want clarity, simplicity and an end to their symtoms - when i show them that a simply hip rotation exercise can eliminate their pain,

That whole paragraph right there is one.

A) I never said that patients shouldn’t be clearly told how and why something is helping. You are the one jumping to conclusions that it was what I was getting at.

B) You are over simplifying. This thread was about a PT teaching his clients TC. Very general. Now you come on and use a very specific, and simple example to try to lend credence to your opinion. Pot meet the kettle.

C) Depending on the severity of the issue and the PT involved, in my experience working in conjunction with PT’s, many patients are unmotivated to do a lot of their homework. Many of these people weren’t into exercise or fitness in the first place and will readily return to their lazy ways. Having an extra peice of the puzzle that can add a little excitement or interest can’t hurt.

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Let the psycho-analyzing begin. Boy, that penetrating and thought provoking analysis really cut the bone. I am humbled by your supreme analytical skills and how you can come to such an accurate conclusion based on some posts. That is truly amazing. And here I was thinking you were a one-trick pony with the vastness of your knowledge in relation to subscribing qi qong to physical therapy patients.