Just because you slap a wing chun T-shirt on a guy, and tell him to stand in a wing tsun stance with his guard up, doesn’t make him a respectable wing chun practicioner.
My wife could’ve beat the $#& out of this guy and she doesn’t know any martial arts.
What kind of ******* just stands there and waits to be taken down?
WT/WC is a frikkin striking style that , when done right, can really punish an opponent in a matter of seconds.
I respect serious martials artists from any style, but I have no respect for the UFC. It is obvious that it is mainly a “rigged” marketing tool for the Gracie style. They seem to allow (or encourage) untrained individuals to compete while wearing the uniform ( or assuming the stances ) of known martial arts; knowing full well that they will be creamed. It makes the Gracie style look good, and people will come rushing to join their classes.
Gracie BJJ is pretty effective, as I have heard, and I am not saying it isn’t, but the caliber of the people in the UFC competing from non-striking styles is very low at times; and it sometimes feels like I’m watching a “rigged” WWF match.
LOL at all the clueless people saying “the guy didn’t know wing chun, a real wing chun guy would know how not to get taken down, the UFC is rigged, etc.”
I wasn’t aware that the Gracies no longer own the UFC. My bad !
I stopped watching the UFC a while ago. Thanks for the update.
Watching that clip of the “Wing Chun” “fighter” in the UFC that gets his ass handed to him, well… He looks like a Krispy Kreme greeter (with no martial art training) that was told to put on a “Wing Chun” T-shirt and step into a ring to take a beating for $1000 .
That was a LONG time ago. Times have changed in terms of NHB and payouts. That was what UFC 5 and they have run 35 more since then.
Also the skill and attributes of the fighters have changed significantly and guys like Cancio would not make the cut to get into the ring. Even though it would be the usual grist for the mill in terms of “traditional” vs mma.
Bottom line is there aren’t going to be any just WC/VT/WT guys entering these events without a significant amount of training and experience otherwise they would just get chewed up quickly. So they would have to have grounding with ground grappling and MMA events experience.
Which is the stuff that Kenwingjitsu is talking about.
I saw that fight a while ago, and it’s clear that not only does the guy have little to no wing chun skill, but he lacks a basic grasp of fighting in general. Even the most witless of fighters will try and avoid a 200 pound man running at their legs…
But why do we have to PI$$ on the guy. He got out there and did something that none of us (almost) have the balls to do. We should be proud that there is someone from W.C who is actually getting out there to put there skills to the test, because there arent many.
I havent been in many fights but I imagine the more fights you get into the more you will learn and the less the adrenalin monster takes over. Id say this guy has one up on us internet warriors.
Originally posted by Miles Teg
[B]Boxers havent done that well in the UFC either.
But why do we have to PI$$ on the guy. He got out there and did something that none of us (almost) have the balls to do. We should be proud that there is someone from W.C who is actually getting out there to put there skills to the test, because there arent many.
I havent been in many fights but I imagine the more fights you get into the more you will learn and the less the adrenalin monster takes over. Id say this guy has one up on us internet warriors. [/B]
I saw that fight a while ago, and it’s clear that not only does the guy have little to no wing chun skill, but he lacks a basic grasp of fighting in general. Even the most witless of fighters will try and avoid a 200 pound man running at their legs…
True. Unfortunately, this Dave Beneteau executed a SHOT and NOT a “running tackle at the legs.”
Originally posted by Miles Teg But why do we have to PI$$ on the guy. He got out there and did something that none of us (almost) have the balls to do.
Because it’s easy to sit back in our chairs and type these responses…to watch the video and critique it. Wing Chun’s answer to the armchair quarterback.
Originally posted by Grendel
Any good grappler would have killed the wrestler on that entry. Good Wing Chun would have killed him long before. Look at the clip again—wide open for a Wing Chun entry and finish.
Killed him on entry to a double leg? LOL! The WC’er needed a sprawl and to use knees. Easy to talk about, hard to do.
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I don’t understand why the wrestler bothered to hit the guy on the ground. He could have finished much more quickly with a submission hold.
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I suppose he should have tickled him on the ground instead!!!??? What he did was ‘ground and pound’- one of the most effective way to finish a fight from the mount. A submission was not necessary and would have taken longer and required a different position.
Originally posted by Miles Teg He got out there and did something that none of us (almost) have the balls to do. We should be proud that there is someone from W.C who is actually getting out there to put there skills to the test, because there arent many.
I don’t know if I would salute the WC practioner’s tecticles in this case. A fantasy land ego most likely supressed any perception of his to realize that he was not yet ready for full combat with a willful opponent. Seems he gained that wisdom the hard way. His opponent’s eyes (read: spirit) destroyed the guy before the match started. My kudos to the victor.
