I heard
sanda full contact fighting
Changchuan longfist
jian striaght sword
taiji
were now going to be Medal Events at the 2008 Olympics.
thats news to alot of us. Where did you hear this?
From what Iāve heard ther is going to be a Tournament a week BEFORE the actual olympics.
Youāre both wrong
The Wushu Tournament Beijing will be simultaneous to the Olympics. Just look at our calendar. Itās ambiguous what the Olympic connection might be because it will be neither an official medal sport nor a demo sport.
This weekend is the 9th World Wushu Games in Beijing. This is the quals for the the Wushu Tournament Beijing. Check out Beijing 2008 By Rose Saint-Stephan in our 2007 November/December. Now, we try never to run negative press, but we would have been remiss in our duty as journalists had we not reported whatās happening so. Itās drawn some fire already, albeit privately. Check it out.
Sanda- Olympic Medal Event?
A great sourceā¦
I asked were they heard they said āthe governorā /(Chinese?)
I thought a heads up would benefit a few
I would ask alot of questions if I had an OPPORTUNITY
especially the SANDA Gang
TAOLU Iām sure someone knows
Yes the last I heard it was a tournament and did not make a Medal Event.
GOOD NEWS- SANDA I think thats great!
News
new news I guess only 1 week oldā¦
well will see if my source is any good huh:D
Wushu isnāt a medal sport
It isnāt even a demo sport
There is a tournament being done in Beijing at the same time, itās almost, dare I say it? A CON :rolleyes: to fool dumb wai guo ren :mad:
Add to that, when the IOC recognized Tao Lu, they did not, repeat DID NOT recognize San Da at ALLā¦ because at the time China had somehow forgotten to offer competition at the world tournament to women, thus disqualifying it from Olympic consideration (ah, Chinese organization :rolleyes: sort of like a fire drill)
If anyone tells you San Da is a medal sport, be careftul, theyāll sell you a bridge next
Sanda- Kick - punch - throw - moreā¦
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;814597]Wushu isnāt a medal sport
It isnāt even a demo sport
There is a tournament being done in Beijing at the same time, itās almost, dare I say it? A CON :rolleyes: to fool dumb wai guo ren :mad:
Add to that, when the IOC recognized Tao Lu, they did not, repeat DID NOT recognize San Da at ALLā¦ because at the time China had somehow forgotten to offer competition at the world tournament to women, thus disqualifying it from Olympic consideration (ah, Chinese organization :rolleyes: sort of like a fire drill)
If anyone tells you San Da is a medal sport, be careftul, theyāll sell you a bridge next[/QUOTE]
thats what I thought, too?
but thing can and do change ā¦
expect the unexpected
like I said for the SANDA gang thats great:D
if my source is any good:eek:
[QUOTE=Kemo Martin;814599]thats what I thought, too?
but thing can and do change ā¦
expect the unexpected
like I said for the SANDA gang thats great:D
if my source is any good:eek:[/QUOTE]
you canāt possibly be this dense?
NO, they donāt change when it comes to IOC and IOC regulations
There is no way in H E LL that San Da is a medal sport, it didnāt even qualify for recognition based upon not having womenās competition
If you want to go to Beijing thinking you are going to the āOlympicsā thatās fine, but it makes you a patsy
Sanda- get ready
well what can I say:confused:
if it doesnāt matter to you donāt worry
but ,
my source is pretty reliable:D
[QUOTE=Kemo Martin;814612]well what can I say:confused:
if it doesnāt matter to you donāt worry
but ,
my source is pretty reliable:D[/QUOTE]
your source must be an idiot if he thinks the IOC will change itās regulations, recognize a sport, then accept it as a medal sport all in under a year :rolleyes:
now, run a play, maybe in the street? :rolleyes:
I donāt think it 'sā¦ impossibleā¦
but since you like San Shouā¦
itās a long step, just as you said
so when it happens only those who are ready andā¦ at the right place, at the right time will make it.
[QUOTE=Kemo Martin;814616]I donāt think it 'sā¦ impossibleā¦
but since you like San Shouā¦
itās a long step, just as you said
so when it happens only those who are ready andā¦ at the right place, at the right time will make it.
;)[/QUOTE]
you know, acting foolish like this, you are losing face in front of everyone
facts are facts, and solidā¦ stop acting the fool, itās unbecoming
Isnāt there a regulation preventing a hosting country from having competing events happening at the same time as the Olympics?
Like LKFMDC said it would be a CON riding on the good name of the Olympics.
Dream of GOLD
I will lose nothingā¦
I didnāt want to believe it when I heard the news either
you know I look forward to seeing what really happens
when its all saidā¦ and doneā¦
the future is amazing:cool:
time will tell all:)
[QUOTE=Kemo Martin;814629]I will lose nothingā¦
I didnāt want to believe it when I heard the news either
you know I look forward to seeing what really happens
when its all saidā¦ and doneā¦
the future is amazing:cool:
time will tell all:)[/QUOTE]
Iām going to go out on a limb here and speculate
when the school bus comes to pick you up in the morning
is it sort of short?
Headgear required
Thats good
you would really have to say ācameā not comes
and no, but thats funny:D
I certainly remember that the Chinese started their olympic organisation hoping to have Wu Shu as a demonstration event, but it got knocked on the head pretty early on by the IOC.
Iām sure youāll see it at every pageant, with heaps of lion and dragon dancing, and there will be pageantry on an unparallelled level at the chinese olympics.
It will make up for the loss of general beer swilling, fornication and street partying that characterised the Sydney games. :D:D:D:D
Whodāa guessedā¦
Itās only a con for those who donāt read our mag
Weāve been discussing the Olympic bid from the day it was announced. Weāll continue to cover it through the Wushu Tournament Beijing. The Wushu Tournament Beijing is allegedly recognized by the IOC as some sort of special case. Weāre still not clear on the exact details. Our publisher, Gigi Oh, is leaving for Beijing today to find out more.
When the Beijing Olympics were announced, many CMA people demonstrated how uneducated and illiterate they were by propounding absurd hearsay. I even heard some rather respected masters claim that Lion dance was going to be an event. Obviously, it is being perpetuated or this thread wouldnāt be here. We all make mistakes, Kemo Martin, so donāt feel bad. If you donāt correct your mistakes, thatās a reason to feel bad. Also, if you have lkfmdc slapping you about on the forum, well you can feel bad about that too, but it happens to all of us. lkfmdc is just that way. Ultimately, a slap on the forum is nothing. It canāt bruise anything more than your ego.
Olympic wushu is a classic case of martial myopia. Anyone can just go to one of the many website on the Olympics, perhaps even their one of their official sites (this one is for Beijing specifically) and find out the facts, but spreading rummors is just more fun I suppose. One prevalent myth was that the hosting country had the right to insert a new game. That changed years ago. The games change every time they are held. As always, just do a little research and youāll save yourself a lot of embarrassment. The IOC has a new president, Jacques Rogge, and he has been campaigning to reduce the amount of events at the Olympic Games, so adding new events is even more difficult. Many of the present events are struggling to hold on to what they have. Itās a long and complicated process to get a new event accepted. Tae Kwon Do is a perfect example. It was first submitted as a demonstration sport in the Seoul '88 games, but it didnāt gain Olympic medal status until Sydney, four game (and sixteen years) later. Additionally, it skipped the '96 games. Read my article in the link on top of this post. It goes into detail on this.
As for sanda, it was never submitted to the IOC at all. The IWuF only submitted taolu. At the time of submission, there werenāt enough female fighters competing on the international level for it to even be considered. Even now, Iām skeptical that there are enough female fighters competing in the World Wushu Games to support an Olympic bid. Nevertheless, sanda will be included in the Wushu Tournament Beijing 2008. Weāll know who gets to go after next week.
So is the Wushu Tournament Beijing a scam? Clearly there are several individuals that are still trying to promote it as an Olympic wushu event. We even received some requests to squelch our reporting of the failed Olympic bid from some noted powers that be in wulin. Obviously, if you read our magazine, we havenāt done that. There are many people who feel China lost face because wushu didnāt make it. Thatās just absurd. China gains more international face by hosting the Olympics than it has ever received in the modern era. If wushu is really to make any progress towards Olympic status, we need to take a serious look at what might have gone wrong. Fortunately, there are other powers that be who are doing that. For them, the Wushu Tournament Beijing is an opportunity to experiment with the sport on the Olympic level. So while there is an effort by some to deceive the public about the Wushu Tournament Beijing, there is also an effort to present the facts.
You want the truth? You canāt handle the truth. Ok, just kidding. I love that olā Nicholson line. If you really want the truth about wushu and the Olympics, itās easy - you know where to go.
wow, thereās a encho in here
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;814597]
when the IOC recognized Tao Lu, they did not, repeat DID NOT recognize San Da at ALLā¦ because at the time China had somehow forgotten to offer competition at the world tournament to women, thus disqualifying it from Olympic consideration
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[QUOTE=lkfmdc;814608]
There is no way in H E LL that San Da is a medal sport, it didnāt even qualify for recognition based upon not having womenās competition
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[QUOTE=GeneChing;814875]
As for sanda, it was never submitted to the IOC at all. The IWuF only submitted taolu. At the time of submission, there werenāt enough female fighters competing on the international level for it to even be considered.
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[QUOTE=lkfmdc;814613]your source must be an idiot if he thinks the IOC will change itās regulations, recognize a sport, then accept it as a medal sport all in under a year :rolleyes:
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[QUOTE=GeneChing;814875]
Itās a long and complicated process to get a new event accepted. Tae Kwon Do is a perfect example. It was first submitted as a demonstration sport in the Seoul '88 games, but it didnāt gain Olympic medal status until Sydney, four game (and sixteen years) later. Additionally, it skipped the '96 games.
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[QUOTE=GeneChing;814875]
if you have lkfmdc slapping you about on the forum, well you can feel bad about that too, but it happens to all of us.
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Olympic Spirit
well gene nice monologue
thank you for your consolationā¦
I understand all the Olympic controversy as you stated too
butā¦
what will you say when Iām right
Let me ask youā¦ if it didā¦
who would have to provide a Team?
Pan-American?
or
American ?
it isā¦ and will happenā¦