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Excellent post from Mantis108
Agreed
ā¦Good Effort Mantis108 
Hi Guys,
Thanks for the support. I really appreicate it.
Warm regards
Mantis108
I agree Mantis 108 has always been a great source of information. I also can see how the main question is seen as trolling. Is this style better then that style or my big brother can beet up your big brotherā¦ is a bit immature. I think it would have been better put to compare the strengths and weakness of each style, and how they can be used to counter each other. Much like mantis 108 did. To say that southern is better then northern is to say I train in southern and know nothing about northern styles, but since my Sifu said weāre better then we must beā¦. I have not seen much southern mantis but from what I did see it is mostly hand movements. I do like the lunging forward grabbing movements. I can not detail how I would fight any given style and it would be foolish to generalize it in that fashion. As even in the same style different people move differently. From my perspective I would be more interested in my opponents stature then style. I have not trained long enough to know this style or that style, so for me it is more important to understand my style. If the opponent is rooted or bigger then I am I would be more inclined to evade and trap the arm. I am a firm believer that if you can control the arm you can control the body. Even if it only gives you enough time to run away, and avoid getting the sh!t knocked out of you. If the opponent is smaller or more agile or just jumping around I would try to adhere to them and then find they weakest angle and knock them down, and of course if necessary run away. I do not believe in fighting someone elseās style. If they like to box or wrestle I am not going to try it their way I will stick with my own method. As for the challenge a the temple in Orlando, how about some dates and names it might be a bit more convincing if you could provide more then my Sifu saidā¦ Did this individual go to the temple and fight some one or was it more like they won in a tournament??? Seems any two equally skilled fighter have equal chance of winning and if one wins the first time the other may very well win the next. Any given Sunday.
Happy Halloween everybodyā¦
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fm
Comparison of NPM and SPM
I have a question in the comparison of NPM and SPM. Does SPM use the same 12 word poem? And how did SPM come about? I have heard some stories but Iām not sure if they were about SPM or just different versions of the NPM story. The whole kicks from the north and hands from the south is a bit general and has been used to describe kung fu as a whole and not so much individual styles. Would like to hear more about Southern styles. Not just PM.
Thanks,
fm
depends on which line of SPM one follows. The origins or developments are explained differently, although several lines tie back to Fukien Shaolin of a Hakkanese monk. Some lines say the style was born of the observation of a fight between a mantis and a bird. Others may say that SPM isnāt really mantis at all and that it was labeled that during dangerous times to hide it from persecutors and that it was developed entirely outside of any shaolin.
http://cclib.nsu.ru/projects/satbi/satbi-e/martart/wushu/sm.html - Great resource on SPM.
But Iām really interested in reading about NPM. If anyone knows any informative sites can you please link?
BTWā¦ SPM would OBVIOUSLY win! Why? Cause its my style. Am I terrible for saying that? I dont see why I would be. Its like me saying that the Eagles are the best. Why? Cuz I live in Philly! Its called pride and I very much enjoy rooting for the the home team just like I root for my style. I donāt think its immature at allā¦ Iām just having a little fun. But seriously thoughā¦ Jook Lum Southern Praying Mantis is ultimate. Seriously.
J-Hon
Thanks guys.
J-hon I can agree with that. Cause the Buccaneers are the best and even though I live in the south I must root for the northern style cause thatās the style I train in. So no that does make you a bad person, just misguided as far as the Eagles anyway, LOL. I am kidding since the Bucs will be lucky to pull 500 this year way there playing. Seriously though the style and techniques are important but it is the fighter that makes it mean something. I can do hook puck grapple all day long does not mean it will work as well for me as it would say mantis108 or others. I will have to check out the website later as I have to get to class.
Thanks again,
fm
Wow. Mantis 108 That Was Deep Thanks For The Big Picture. I Think In Just Excited To Learn More About Both Styles Being That Im A First Year Student, The Way U Broke That Down Was Amazing
who would win
previously mega fist stated he knew the answer about who would win. And the winner isā¦
Yeah Who Do U Think Would Win. Most Would Say The Better Fighter But What Makes A Better Fighter. The One Who Threw More Punches And Did The Hitting Or The One Who Used His Foot Work And Defensive Hand Techniques And Never Got Hit
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Not Boasting About It By No Means He Said He Knew, I Just Wanted To Know Why He Thought He Knew
J-hon, I have been reading the link you posted and must say it is very interesting. I still believe that any given style can beet any other given style on any given day with equally matched fighters. I do northern style but we have some southern flavor in it and I can appreciate getting up close and personal. I do think it would take more then three years to learn such skill. Now back in the day when folks would train all day, every day I can see that it would be more likely and of course they had a strong motivation. War is hell! So in interest of conversation how would two equally matched students be determined??? If it take less time to learn the southern style would it be appropriate to say that a five year student of the south has the advantage? Then if you take more time to learn a system then I would think the information has a greater depth. So a ten year student of the north would have the advantage, maybe notā¦. I personally believe that knowing a few good techniques and practicing them over and over would produce instinct like reaction. But after fifteen twenty years now you have two students that have been practicing for many years one who has the fast leant aggressive system and one who has the in-depth slow learnt precision???
Anyway the one thing I have gathered NPM and SPM are two different styles and to compare the two in a sense of who is the better fighter takes away from many of the other comparisons, of a technical sense.
fm
Now I Can Agree With That And Most Would Say The Better More Experienced Fighter Would Win But Just Knowing A Few Techniques That Are On Point No Matter How Much Skill U Have U Cant Say Who Would Win Be It Youāve Practiced For Only 2 Months Or Ten Years Its What The One Of These 2 Persons Know What To Do And How To Out Think One Another