I’m not sure if this has been posted already as it’s been awhile since I’ve last posted on this forum… I found some really cool Northern 7 Star Mantis forms on YouTube preformed by my Senior Gung Fu brother & best friend Loki. Who I haven’t seen in some time I hope you guys injoy them as much as I did… …
The article here mentions the oldest known reference to 7* in Chinese boxing. Included is my translation, origianl translation and the original picture from General Qi’s book.
Also just a mention, Lee Kam Wing will be in NY from Nov 5th thru 10th giving various seminars. 516-466-1010 for more info. Some of the topics covered are:
Ha San Fu -Tiger descends mountain
Spear VS Double daggers
Spear VS Three Sectional
Double straight sword (Seung Gim)
18 Palms
Lo Han Gung and more.
Seminars will be held at:
770 Middle Neck, RD.
Great Neck NY 11024
Also just a mention, Lee Kam Wing will be in NY from Nov 5th thru 10th giving various seminars. 516-466-1010 for more info. Some of the topics covered are:
Ha San Fu -Tiger descends mountain
Spear VS Double daggers
Spear VS Three Sectional
Double straight sword (Seung Gim)
18 Palms
Lo Han Gung and more.
Seminars will be held at:
770 Middle Neck, RD.
Great Neck NY 11024[/QUOTE]
Hi Sifu Albright,
Long time no chat. Hope all is well with you.
Excellent stuff. Thanks for shareing and update on Sifu Lee’s seminars.
[QUOTE=Bruce W Sims;803650]Can someone speak to the significance of identifying a tradition as “Seven Star”? Is this an alternate way of saying “northern”? Thoughts?
Best Wishes,
Bruce[/QUOTE]
LKY claimed to be teaching only Mantis in Ching Wu, he didn’t said he was teaching 7 stars Mantis. Yet most of his students agreed that they belonged to 7 stars. WHF had a different saying, he feeled that what LKY handed down to him not only 7 stars, there were MuiFA , Kwong Bon and Fan Chai’s Shou Fat in the forms. So if he just said 7 stars it is too limited himself, so he better just said what he teach is “Northern Mantis”. Although one of a old group photo of WHF and his students showing a 7 stars flag as background, he said just for good looking only.
The whole purpose at Chin Woo was to unite. Probably the same principle was carried over in naming systems within the organization.
Maybe this is why Qixing Tanglang became known as Tanglang.
Maybe this is why Er Lang Men became known as Bei Shaolin, or just Northern Shaolin.
Maybe why Wu Taiji became Taiji.
Maybe why Ying Zhua Fanzi Men became just Eagle Claw.
Later on in HK the southern system of Praying Mantis was also practiced quite a bit, so it probably made good sense to distinguish Qixing Tanglang simply as Bei Tanglang (Northenr Mantis). Northern Mantis and Southern Mantis for the laymen.
[QUOTE=Qixing Tanglang;811414]The whole purpose at Chin Woo was to unite. Probably the same principle was carried over in naming systems within the organization.
Maybe this is why Qixing Tanglang became known as Tanglang.
Maybe this is why Er Lang Men became known as Bei Shaolin, or just Northern Shaolin.
Maybe why Wu Taiji became Taiji.
Maybe why Ying Zhua Fanzi Men became just Eagle Claw.
Later on in HK the southern system of Praying Mantis was also practiced quite a bit, so it probably made good sense to distinguish Qixing Tanglang simply as Bei Tanglang (Northenr Mantis). Northern Mantis and Southern Mantis for the laymen.[/QUOTE]
Dear Qixing:
Yes I am missing this important point, due to there was southern mantis at that time, so WHF name himself as northern mantis.
Thanks!
Alex
[QUOTE=Qixing Tanglang;811804]Hi teacher Xie. Me Nate out of SH. You still in BJ working or in HK now.
Best personal regards,
Nate[/QUOTE]
Dear Nate:
Oh this you? Long time no see, how about all of you? Are you all still in shanghai?I am now working in Hong Kong again!
Keep in touch, my e-mail: alexanderx@126.com
Anyone who trained / trains under the LGY family knows it is QXTL pure and simple. Anyone else under the umbrella Fan Xudong family lineage knows LGY trained and taught QXTL. To state anything else is just absurd.
WHF learned QXTL from LGY. He had the QXTL banner hanging on his wall for one reason and one reason only…that is what he trained. Sorry but stories saying that he just liked the looks of it are silly.