Today I was browsing YouTube and ended up watching a movie in Mandarin only/no English subtitles section of net listings (vids) and noticed a documentary that showed Master Ip Man as the cover scene (didnāt see the picture in the actual video) standing sideways (picture taken from waist up) with his right arm outstretched in ātan sauā wing arm form. Thing is, he had four thick metal rings along his forearm as a weight source, rings with just enough circumference to get your hand through. Sensitivity training also comes to mind. The picture showed Master Ip in his later ageā¦ so I will assume the picture of him was taken in Hong Kong. The backdrop is just a blank white wall and the picture was taken while he was posing/showing this training technique. Considering the fact that I donāt read or speak the language and would not be able to locate this image again once I moved on from the Google page, I took a close-up of the picture for my own references but am not at liberty to show this. (publishing laws). * Reminds me of something you would expect to see more likely with Hung Gar practitioners / training. Anyone else know of this use of rings in the Ip Man Lineage? Not talking about the large and smaller rattan and metal 2-arm work-out rings that are somewhat common with a few WingChun lineages. Technically, it would explain why he was known in Hong Kong as āThe Old Man with the Heavy Punchā.
Here is an entry in the āThe Rattan Ringā thread from the year 2000. Post #12:
Sihing73
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Hi Kymus,
I beleive that Rene Ritchie has a book out on Yuen Kay San Wing Chun and describes some methods for utilizing the Rattan Ring.
Keep in mind that when one mentions Ring Training there are several variations. There are the brass rings which are designed to slip over your wrist and provide tension/weight while performing hand movements. Also there are ones that are slightly larger designed for gripping training. And of course the ones in Wing Chun which usually have an inside diameter of 12-14". Never really got to play with those as my system does not seem to incorporate them. maybe I can get Rene to show how to use them if we ever meet in person.
Iāve seen the picture of ip man you refer to, some one posted it on here before, think if you do a Google picture search for āip manā it appearsā¦ looks to me like it was about the same time he got all the pictures and videos of the forms recorded.
never known my own lineage (samuel kwok) to use them, seems like one of those things he would of done a book about if he did have them lol
[QUOTE=PalmStriker;1318846] Master Yuen Kay San would demonstrate the skill by taking out birds on the wing.[/QUOTE]
I read a book on throwing weapons recently, the grip for the Chinese throwing dart was interesting, like the one above ( I think thatās a Japanese version of it. )
Thanks for posting the picture, T.D.O. The grip makes perfect sense for using a throwing dart like that. There are many different types of darts, that one would be perfect for short range overhead extended arm throw. Wouldnāt mind having a dozen of those for my vest. I can see that the dart is made out of bronze instead of brass or steel, an old one (antiquer).
[QUOTE=PalmStriker;1320929] Thanks for posting the picture, T.D.O. The grip makes perfect sense for using a throwing dart like that. There are many different types of darts, that one would be perfect for short range overhead extended arm throw. Wouldnāt mind having a dozen of those for my vest. I can see that the dart is made out of bronze instead of brass or steel, an old one (antiquer).[/QUOTE]
Thatās one I found online, Iāll see if I can upload the one from the book, the dart is completely different from that, though the grip is the same.
[QUOTE=T.D.O;1320931]Thatās one I found online, Iāll see if I can upload the one from the book, the dart is completely different from that, though the grip is the same.[/QUOTE]
Just so everyone knows, the blade point configured in post picture above was outlawed by the Geneva Convention back around WW1 due to the fact that bayonet wounds from tri or quad points made wounds that would never heal. Configured blade points used by deer/game bow hunters is probably one of the few exceptions. Here is one of my favorite Kung Fu movies that has a dart-throwing Lady Master in the mix. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWcOW4tzo2I
[QUOTE=PalmStriker;1320950] Just so everyone knows, the blade point configured in post picture above was outlawed by the Geneva Convention back around WW1 due to the fact that bayonet wounds from tri or quad points made wounds that would never heal.[/QUOTE]
And I donāt think anybody should be throwing any type of weapon at people anyway :eek:
Not so much in this day and age. Bet there were a few bandits with 'em sticking in their backs running off into the sunset in the āOld Daysā, though.
[QUOTE=PalmStriker;1320982] Not so much in this day and age. Bet there were a few bandits with 'em sticking in their backs running off into the sunset in the āOld Daysā, though.[/QUOTE]
I would of aimed for the legs, harder to run away and probably less armour
Interesting thread to do with wing chun and ba gua (theory)[/QUOTE]
I see some overlap, but being from a large metropolis, all these styles tend to blend together in oneās mind. It could be thereās only a finite number of moves that the overlap was not temporally based. BTW, since I had the scanner out, check out this picture of IP Man with his big TV behind him. Now Iām really wondering what influence TV had on his kung fu, haha
Today I was browsing YouTube and ended up watching a movie in Mandarin only/no English subtitles section of net listings (vids) and noticed a documentary that showed Master Ip Man as the cover scene (didnāt see the picture in the actual video) standing sideways (picture taken from waist up) with his right arm outstretched in ātan sauā wing arm form. Thing is, he had four thick metal rings along his forearm as a weight source, rings with just enough circumference to get your hand through. Sensitivity training also comes to mind. The picture showed Master Ip in his later ageā¦ so I will assume the picture of him was taken in Hong Kong. The backdrop is just a blank white wall and the picture was taken while he was posing/showing this training technique. Considering the fact that I donāt read or speak the language and would not be able to locate this image again once I moved on from the Google page, I took a close-up of the picture for my own references but am not at liberty to show this. (publishing laws). * Reminds me of something you would expect to see more likely with Hung Gar practitioners / training. Anyone else know of this use of rings in the Ip Man Lineage? Not talking about the large and smaller rattan and metal 2-arm work-out rings that are somewhat common with a few WingChun lineages. Technically, it would explain why he was known in Hong Kong as āThe Old Man with the Heavy Punchā.
Master Yuen Kay San would demonstrate the skill by taking out birds on the wing.[/QUOTE]
I can see that the dart is made out of bronze instead of brass or steel, an old one (antiquer).
