New Thread Format: tell me what you know about taiji

Nei Jia: the Qigong and Taijiquan Forum Taijiquan and the Internal Martial Arts
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To save some members a lot of time and enable responses to be about whatever aspect of taiji they like, here is a thread in which you may discuss anything you feel is important in taiji, and I will respond how you’re wrong, and occasionally provide a link to videos of cute animals as proof.

As a demonstration of my superiority from moment to moment, my previous paragraph is already so inferior to my current one as to not being worth my time responding. If I had had a teacher such as myself for that paragraph, I clearly would have written this paragraph.

I don’t expect you all to understand the complexities of this, I’m merely giving you the opportunity to learn from the tradition of smug negations.

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Although it departs from the spirit of this thread, I will say that the member who was about to post, but didn’t, was correct in doing so. I thank him for saving me the tedium of answering his misguided assumptions in the manner they deserve.

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stages of understanding

here is what I was told to think about in the late 1970s about grand ultimate fist

there is the grand yang or tai yang

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSkWli9NykQ

do the locomotion.

there is the grand yin or tai yin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3_yLPadDfY

listening to the rain

together you have tai chi. so tai yang + tai yin or interaction of both.

I was too young to understand both.

so I just do a litte bit of softness and a little bit of hardness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY9TbE0nG1I

whenever you find your balance

you find your tai chi.

:smiley:

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here.

  1. at first, we have to learn and understand how to be hard and harder, fast and faster–

  2. secondly, we have to learn and understand how to be soft or yielding–

  3. finally, we learn how to balance 1 and 2.

if the opponent is fast, we may be faster.

if the opponent is strong. we may be stronger

on the other hand, if, somehow, the opponent is intuitively or intrinsically faster and stronger than us.

we have to consider: dogding, avoiding, yielding

by moving away, we may be faster and in a better position in our next move.

after learning both 1 and 2, tai chi is then learned and understood.

sort of mashing 1 and 2 together

just like mashed potato

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQBKpV9emKc

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[QUOTE=KC Elbows;1003801]To save some members a lot of time and enable responses to be about whatever aspect of taiji they like, here is a thread in which you may discuss anything you feel is important in taiji, and I will respond how you’re wrong, and occasionally provide a link to videos of cute animals as proof.

As a demonstration of my superiority from moment to moment, my previous paragraph is already so inferior to my current one as to not being worth my time responding. If I had had a teacher such as myself for that paragraph, I clearly would have written this paragraph.

I don’t expect you all to understand the complexities of this, I’m merely giving you the opportunity to learn from the tradition of smug negations.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KC Elbows;1003802]Although it departs from the spirit of this thread, I will say that the member who was about to post, but didn’t, was correct in doing so. I thank him for saving me the tedium of answering his misguided assumptions in the manner they deserve.[/QUOTE]

Did your sifu put you up to this?:mad:

Wouldn’t it just be easier to criticize us all BEFORE we post so we won’t have to go to all the effort of posting non-sense first?

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Proper Tai Chi Chuan in action!

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here

  1. harder and harder would be shaolin fist or ba ji fist

  2. faster and faster would be praying mantis.

  3. softer and softer—

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[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;1003830]Did your sifu put you up to this?:mad:

Wouldn’t it just be easier to criticize us all BEFORE we post so we won’t have to go to all the effort of posting non-sense first?[/QUOTE]

The problem with your post is twofold:

  1. It’s wrongness

  2. It’s incorrectitude

If I criticized you beforehand, you might suggest I was less infinitely wise than Hendrick.

Clearly I am twice as infinitely wise as he.

However, your link is helpful for others struggling with lesser forms of taiji, and so I applaud you, despite my superiority, which goes without saying, though I will still say it.

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[QUOTE=SPJ;1003815]here.

  1. at first, we have to learn and understand how to be hard and harder, fast and faster–

  2. secondly, we have to learn and understand how to be soft or yielding–

  3. finally, we learn how to balance 1 and 2.

if the opponent is fast, we may be faster.

if the opponent is strong. we may be stronger

on the other hand, if, somehow, the opponent is intuitively or intrinsically faster and stronger than us.

we have to consider: dogding, avoiding, yielding

by moving away, we may be faster and in a better position in our next move.

after learning both 1 and 2, tai chi is then learned and understood.

sort of mashing 1 and 2 together

just like mashed potato

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQBKpV9emKc

—[/QUOTE]

Wrong. Taiji is not like mashed potatoes, just as when you are offered a “massagee” you do not get a neck rub.

However, do not feel bad, my superiority is a given, you have done well considering. I salute you for not falling into the self deceit of paragraphs.

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[QUOTE=KC Elbows;1003801] you may discuss anything you feel is important in taiji, and I will respond how you’re wrong, [/QUOTE]
I have a feeling that you have just said that everybody have sin and you are the true saver. Since “my sin is my pride”. The word “saver” has no meaning to me.

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sometimes, KC is being ironic.

:wink:

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[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1003849]I have a feeling that you have just said that everybody have sin and you are the true saver. Since “my sin is my pride”. The word “saver” has no meaning to me.[/QUOTE]

Although this thread is about taiji, I will digress to respond.

In order to save you, I would have to explain right to you, and that would lead us into words, and away from the tao that cannot be spoken.

Since that would require near infinite wisdom, it could take almost a third of my infinite wisdom to explain it, which could affect the quality of my own contemplation of my boundless superiority. Obviously, this would be a misappropriation of a portion of my limitless virtue.

By allowing you to discuss your taiji, you and others can encapsulate your words, and we all will see how each explanation, despite its relative good value, is not perfect in its correctitudinousness.

From this knowing, it is clear then that, when I say wrong, it is not me speaking the way that cannot be spoken, but my spesking, and it being the way. Where I to speak otherwise, that would not be the way.

Do not contemplate this, it is too dangerous at your level of cultivation.

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I can’t contemplate it because I don’t understand it!

Thus demonstrating it truly IS the Way!!!

I just don’t know which Way it is?:confused:

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There is only ONE taiji, the rest are mere imitations !!!

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[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1003950]There is only ONE taiji, the rest are mere imitations !!![/QUOTE]

But which one? Hendrik’s or KC Elbows’s?

Which one has the attainment of true kung fu???

I am afraid I might choose a false prophet?

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[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;1003952]But which one? Hendrik’s or KC Elbows’s?

Which one has the attainment of true kung fu???

I am afraid I might choose a false prophet?[/QUOTE]

Obviously, MINE is the REAL AUTHENTIC TAIJI !!

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To spare myself time for my contemplations, I will deign to instruct.

People judge, and we speculate on the nature of the real taiji nonetheless.

Saying I judge, none speak of the real taiji.

Using words and a character that place no special quality upon my judgement, still you dare not speak of the real taiji.

This is an evidence that all here innately know of the superiority of my boundless limitlessness, for they will not risk being wrong. Against all other judgings you dare speculate on the real taiji, but my judging is treated as superior, as sure to dissect the weaknesses in your own ideas.

Perhaps you thus know a little of the way. I applaud you.

If I were to tell you the real taiji when you cannot speculate on it because of my judgement, all you could perceive would be the struggle against truth your preconceptions would make, like a teenage boy clumsily attempting to undo a bra and failing because of the nature of his motions.

Nonetheless, speculate. There is way in being at a stage of failing to always adhere to the way, do not fear my judgement children!

I hope I have made clear where your wrongness illustrates my lustrous beingness.

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tai chi is a balance/dynamic of opposing factors

  1. movement vs stillness

thus locomotion vs listening to the rain

  1. in movement

it is about centering balance between moving forward vs rear, up vs down, left vs right

5 steps.

  1. in stillness
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[QUOTE=SPJ;1003976]tai chi is a balance/dynamic of opposing factors

  1. movement vs stillness

thus locomotion vs listening to the rain

  1. in movement

it is about centering balance between moving forward vs rear, up vs down, left vs right

5 steps.

  1. in stillness

—[/QUOTE]

A man with double vision can’t make one whole into two.

You will likely suffer a period of serious danger in your chi from reading this, but a lesser man would not survive 108 days after reading it. You may someday experience the real taiji, but you need to be more stingy with your jing.

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[QUOTE=KC Elbows;1003971]To spare myself time for my contemplations, I will deign to instruct.

People judge, and we speculate on the nature of the real taiji nonetheless.

Saying I judge, none speak of the real taiji.

Using words and a character that place no special quality upon my judgement, still you dare not speak of the real taiji.

This is an evidence that all here innately know of the superiority of my boundless limitlessness, for they will not risk being wrong. Against all other judgings you dare speculate on the real taiji, but my judging is treated as superior, as sure to dissect the weaknesses in your own ideas.

Perhaps you thus know a little of the way. I applaud you.

If I were to tell you the real taiji when you cannot speculate on it because of my judgement, all you could perceive would be the struggle against truth your preconceptions would make, like a teenage boy clumsily attempting to undo a bra and failing because of the nature of his motions.

Nonetheless, speculate. There is way in being at a stage of failing to always adhere to the way, do not fear my judgement children!

I hope I have made clear where your wrongness illustrates my lustrous beingness.[/QUOTE]

Well there you have it right there!

Every time I ask or wonder he comes back with such nonsensical wisdom HE MUST BE TAO INCARNATE!!!

If he wasn’t I could make mince meat out of his wisdom-ness. But instead I am stupefied which is definite proof to any with mindless thoughts of superiorness!