[QUOTE=Yuanshen Man;1029060]Good Book!!! It has allot of formulas in it. Its about time someone has done it !!! Their are no secrets now !!! Everyone in martial arts Who studies Iron Palm,should have a copy of this book . It has allot of good Information …[/QUOTE]
good point.
on a side note, I’ve always wondered why no one includes the chi-gung required to learn iron palm…
[QUOTE=TenTigers;1029231]on a side note, I’ve always wondered why no one includes the chi-gung required to learn iron palm…[/QUOTE]I know many disagree with me but my feeling is that the qigong is the easiest part to hold over students’ heads or for people to claim others dont have “the real thing” because they dont do the right qigong routine…but its not rocket science, or even anything close.
Coincidentally, while it may be helpful in the healing process, etc IMO its also the least necessary piece of the puzzle in forging the hand and producing a great deal of power.
[QUOTE=PlumDragon;1029238]I know many disagree with me but my feeling is that the qigong is the easiest part to hold over students’ heads or for people to claim others dont have “the real thing” because they dont do the right qigong routine…but its not rocket science, or even anything close.
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Well, I’ve seen all sides of this for a long time and I’ve come to the conclusion that some people just can’t grasp the concepts of qigong and therefore are led around because of it. wùxìng power of understanding, is very important.
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Coincidentally, while it may be helpful in the healing process, etc IMO its also the least necessary piece of the puzzle in forging the hand and producing a great deal of power.
Depends on the exercise, IMO…
[QUOTE=Dale Dugas;1026246]I am actually thinking of working with Rod and creating a version of the book with all the Han Zi needed for you to take the formulas to a Chinese herbalist.
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I think that’ll be another one we’ll all have to buy, so be sure and post that one here too once it’s available.
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I am actually thinking of working with Rod and creating a version of the book with all the Han Zi needed for you to take the formulas to a Chinese herbalist.
I think that’ll be another one we’ll all have to buy, so be sure and post that one here too once it’s available.
It Won’t be. The Book is not Being “Redone”. The book does contain some HanZi, , as we decided not to put them all up that way, but we could have if we wanted too.We could of offered all the Formulas that way, and without Dales help. Dale’s only Involvement with these books, is that we have listed Him as a Herb Source, Personally, as I have had no Herbal dealings with Dale, I tell everyone that asks me, to go to Sea Of Chi, Master Thomas Joiner, Or Josh from PlumDragon,
but Any of the Listed Sources can Properly fill any of the Formulas we have included in these Books.
HTH!
-Wolfgang
Thanks Rodney and Wolfgang for publishing your text of Jow formulas! I can attest that gaining knowledge of “folk” Chinese Herbalism is rough going. I too have had my pocket picked several times by unscrupulous persons- including a couple of my “trusted” teachers. I learned a little Chinese herbalism while studying acupuncture and martial arts but I have always wanted to learn much more about hit medicine.
Plum Dragon (Josh I believe) and Dale…KUDOS for you two too:) It is nice to know that there are herbal suppliers out there NOT ripping people off. When I lived in Houston, TX I used to pay about $8-$35 (depending on recipe) for enough raw herbs too make a gallon of Jow. I really do miss living across the street from 3 Chinese Herbal Pharmacies. Now I have to powder my own San Qi:eek:
And from personal experience I know that Han Zi will greatly aid the Chinese herbalist filling ones prescription…
Ten Tigers: I have never hunted bear but I have used parts of deer that I have legally harvested to make wine and hit jow. Who needs Viagra when you have 80 proof deer “male-member” wine:D Steven Seagal can keep his powder…
LOL,excellent. what is your reference to steven segal and powder?? i dont know much about him.
[QUOTE=teetsao;1030192]LOL,excellent. what is your reference to steven segal and powder?? i dont know much about him.[/QUOTE]
Rodney, if you ever have time to waste watch a semi-terrible movie he made called the “Glimmer Man” and you will understand the joke about the powdered deer “member”
BTW he also studied at Ark Wong’s for a little over 3 years when he was in his late teens/early 20’s.
Good luck with your Iron palm video too- I look forward to being able to purchase a copy when it is available.
Best,
BJ
Just wanted to drop a “Update note”, that I personally have switched my Herb supplier
to Coiling Dragon , and that Dale offers great herbs at a fair price, with great Customer service.
-Wolfgang
Wolfgang,
Thank you for the kind words.
I try and get the highest quality herbs at the best prices to those interested.
I will beat anyone’s prices on any formula from the Ancient Martial Formula’s book.
Why mess with other suppliers with little or no background when you can get an 30+ year martial artists who is also an Herbalist getting his MAOM (Masters in Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine) this coming August.
I agree that there seems to be a big gouging problem. What we handle has to be organic and lab certified - even at the premium, a $2 cancer tea sells for $25 commonly and from what I can see, it is the same and worse in Jow-world.
We could make these up from the formulary because we have a text that translates. (I don’t know the link, but can e-mail you one. Title is "Chinese and related North American herbs)
I went over to the Coiling Dragon. Since I couldn’t see formulas, it is hard to comment on the compounds beyond saying that any multi-component is going to be that price and more (often much more…) but I did go to the herbs area and those prices are cheaper on many things than what you will see on the market.
People may not be experts, but they should be able to expect significant benefits quickly. The whole US is also on a organic and certified move and so even farms and people like us who use growers are gearing that way. It helps with the problem of “some” big and well known distributors selling a “substitute” without telling the customer.
I also agree that if you are new it is good to consult with someone who has more knowledge and experience. The more powerful and effective a formula is, usually the more important it is to know the “rules” of it and stay within parameters.
We don’t have any Jow recipes. Maybe we should get a copy of this formulary and explore them…
(found a google books link for online viewing: http://books.google.com/books?id=ueo69HPjSRsC&printsec=frontcover&dq=chinese+and+related+north+american+herbs&source=bl&ots=iIj59_fwgq&sig=lLf855cOfMgbJTfD7QeHL61BDww&hl=en&ei=kxYpTfX8AoKKlwfAyLGVAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false
Ho Family formula?
(I’ve sent a PM to Rodney but it seems it didn’t get through
maybe a newbie can’t send a PM… I don’t know.)
I’m interested in this one of a kind book of external jow
formulas. However, I’d really like to know whether
the Ho Family (Mike Biggie’s mod) recipe is in the book.
I practice wuzuquan (five ancestors fist) and banging
hands is part of my routines. I currently use commercial
jows to treat the bruises and swellings only to find that
they’re almost non-effective, i.e. I can’t get fully healed
in a week, so it only got worsen and worsen each week.
Lately I was exposed to Ho Family (Mike Biggie’s mod) jow
that seems to get rave reviews from its users, everyone
vouch for this product. However, purchasing them in
bottles or in herb packs is not an option because I live
in South East Asia, the shipping would cost a lot and
the customs don’t let this kind of stuff get in easily.
So, if the Ho Family formula is covered in the book
it would help me A LOT and I’d be forever grateful
Thanks a bunch,
Ray
Hello Ray:
Yes, the Formula is in the Book.
-Wolfgang