I would say that strategy and the psychological/emotional content are very important things to learn about when fighting.
HuangKaiVun:
I’m not here to justify where I live, but I think you need to justify to your students as sifu why slow teaching is the way hung gar is being taught nowadays? That I would also like to know.
I know other styles claw when need be. But why call yours a tiger claw or a dragon claw. Shouldn’t you be concentrating (as sifu) on claw usage rather than fancy names?
What do you do in the form that could risk getting a lousy liver? doesn’t make sense. Joint damage from hard impact work - yes, but liver - commmmme onnn man! Can’t you think of a better excuse to delay your students from learning that form for 10 years?
Omarthefish:
Why wait 7 or 8 years? Shouldn’t your sifu teach according to ability rather than the time you’ve been a member of the school. Suppose a person trains 4 times a week instead of 1, does it mean he or she needs to spend 4 times the equivalent hour as the one who trains once a week before learning that form?
Have you told your sifu that what he is doing is stupid? spend me his email I’ll tell him myself - on your behalf.
fgxpanzerz:
When I was training kungfu, I look for fights. Taking your example of “super seyences”, isn’t it through difficult fights that they reach higher levels of competence? I will keep coming back to the opponent until he is defeated, then I will move on to the next and the next. Too bad a car accident took that away from me.
If I want to keep fit, I might go to the gym, work out on weights and cardio. Much better than forms. i hate people who train forms and can’t fight.
fgxpanzerz,
This is great. Eight years and you never learned the wire form?
Without being able to see or hear you I actually can’t tell if that is sarcasm or you actually think that’s a good thing.
Ego,
I really want to argue with you but your posts are getting so far removed from the posts they are commenting on it’s hard to see what it is your saying. Where did you pull this mysterious 'have to wait 10 years’line out of. What do you think I was doing for those 7 or 8 years?
Did you get traumatized by 3 star arm training so bad that now all you can do is type. . . oh I forgot your a NORTHERN stylist you probably like to use your feet . 
Put the knitting needles down ya little green man and get back to your silly northern troll style. 
One Of These Kids Is Doing His Own Thing???
EGO/GOKTIMUS PRIME Example,
Shoalin Kids Example,
What’s wrong with this “Picture”
Man, Ego you’ve been out done by a kid:D
Kelvin/Ego/Goktimus, you’re sinking deeper.
You still haven’t shown me you’re from New Jersey.
What really frightens me is that you actually dare to teach people.
You should be banned from education.
I see nothing wrong with not having learned the Iron Wire set after 8 years.
There are guys that train nothing but one set and they fight or do sets great.
It’s not what one knows, it’s how he does it that counts.
Omarthefish:
“Can’t speak on Tit Sien Kuen, my Sifu typically teaches it only after 7 or 8 years. That’s recently. It used to be about a 10 year wait.”
Did your head get tramatized so much from thinking that you forgot what you posted earlier - the 10 year wait. Where did I pull it ou off you asked? from your very own a$$.
HunangKaiVun:
Now now, stop trying to shift the attention from the fact that you’re the chicken you is too afraid to go though with your own challenge. It’s best for your midgit taiwanese self to apolopgize to us all.
Tid Sin is nothing more that static breating exercises where the person tries to make animal noises and hold hand positions to mimick that of a tiger, leapord, snake, dragon and crane.
This can hardly be considered to be high level kung fu. Perhaps a slap on the forhwead would wake Tid Sin players out of their self induced trance.
To answer your question, It is not my style to splash my personal details on the internet. That is for you to do so that you can be redicued by the likes of wushu chic.
To answer yoiu kung fu related question, waiting 8 years before learning the set does not account for the abilities of the individual or their training intensity. The only people I teach are the likes of you on this forum and you still have much to learn boy.
10 years and why do I talk to this guy?
Yes my poor gentle EGO. I did say you typically have to wait up to 10 years to learn Tit Sin. I did not however say anything about waiting 10 years to use Hung Gar in a practical way.
Have your arms healed yet from your brief bout with southern shaolin training. I read about your trauma on another thread.
I guess that would make you a bruised Ego
It’s o.k. Ego. You’ll be fine eventually.
What style did you say you train in? Somehow I haven’t managed to find anything about training or background on your profile. Why haven’t you manufactured imaginary training to match your imaginary expertise?
Omarthefish:
I didn’t say you were waiting 10 years to use Hung Gar effectively in that past. I was asking why your sifu is getting you to wait 10 years before learning tiet sin form.
It than raises the question as to whether sifu should be teavhing the form according to ability / intensiveness of training rather than just the leangth of memebership a student has been at his school.
I gave the example of someone training once a week versus 4 times a week.
Since you seem so proud to have waited this long (before learning the form) perhaps you could provide us with the reasons as to why 10 is such a magical number. Why not 20, 50 or even 150 years - skipping 2 generations in between?
I used to train in southern kung fu for a period until I discovered the northern styles were vastly superior. I trained in a number of northern styles such as Tai-chi, Baji, Hsing I and a bit of mantis. That was before I met with a motorvehicle accident that took away the use of my legs. If you read my posts closely, I do talk about my training background from time to time. I haven’t posted my training background in my profile.
10 years
perhaps you could provide us with the reasons as to why 10 is such a magical number.
Not a magic number. An armbitrary number. Pulled out of a hat. I rough average based on my observations at the school where I trained. I later mentioned in more recent years a few have learned after 7 or 8 years.
I’m not exactly ‘proud’ to have waited but I guess I do take pride in not rushing through the forms. I’m a little jealous of my classmates, some of them my juniors, who are learning tit sinm while I’m here in China. But then, I have learned certain things from my Sifu that they haven’t. The curriculum is flexible.
It’s not always the talent/dedication of the student either. Sometimes you learn a weapon just because somebody else is learning another weapon and there’s nobody to train the two man set with him. Sometimes Sifu just seem like he get’s an urge to teach somebody a form nobody’s learned in a while.
There has been no waiting around dumbly sitting in a horse for 45 minutes untill Sifu feels we’ve ‘earned’ the right to learn something. I’ve been busy there. There’s just a lot to learn and in the 7 or 8 years of 2 or 3 classes a week, I never learned it. On the other hand none of my shixiong back in the states know xiaobaji or dabaji and only a couple of the real seniors know any Bagua so it all evens out in the end.
p.s.
The Pigua and Bagua I know, I also learned from my Hung Gar Sifu.
Omarthefish:
How do you compare the Baji you learned in US and the Baji you are learning in China? Is there much differences in the interpritation of the style by to different sifus as well as the way is being taught?
Never learned Baji in the U.S. It’s something I found here by accident. So . . . yeah it’s different.
Going by the photos on the couple of big Baji websites around I’d say there are a few small differences from U.S. Baji but not much. The stuff in the states seems to be mainly from Liu Yunqiao and my Baji comes from Zhao Xiangwu, a lesser known Baji master. Lesser known mainly because he was a general in the Kuomintang and is there fore considered an enemy of the communist state and was shot as such.