My last post here

Dave,

I Dont buy your view,

and I choose to post this to the public

as my last post here in this forum.

I challenge you to put back my two posts you delete today
and let the public judge.

Just because you dont understand me, WCK, and my way of relating to WCK
you make off mark accusation on me. on this two posts.

Sure, this is your ball park and anyone who dont like your rule dont post here.

That is what i am going to do. I will Not post here but anymore but on other forum.


Hendrik,

You have a tendency to try and pose in a superior position to others. You tend to post in a rather obtuse manner and while you have much to offer, this is a Wing Chun forum and not a place for your songs and other off topic posts.

You could go a long way by stating things more clearly. Otherwise, anything which is not related to Wing Chun in an identifiable fashion will be removed.

Feel free to contact me via PM or email if you wish to discuss.


Peace,

Dave

Ding Dong, The Witch is dead, The Wicked Witch, the Witch is dead!

Ding Dong The Wicked Witch is deeeeeeeead!

Everybody sing…!!!

P.S.

YOU may not agree Hendrik…but just about everyone else agrees with Dave!!

am I having a weird deja-vu, or did something exactly like this go on last year, right at Chinese New Year?
(I may just be absinthe-minded…)

[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;1075845]Ding Dong, The Witch is dead, The Wicked Witch, the Witch is dead!

Ding Dong The Wicked Witch is deeeeeeeead!

Everybody sing…!!![/QUOTE]

Scott- there is no need to be personal.

joy chaudhuri

[QUOTE=Vajramusti;1075853]=============================================================

Scott- there is no need to be personal.

joy chaudhuri[/QUOTE]

As against Hendricks arrogance and condascending ways Joy?

You reap what you sow…

Hendrick gets a lot of hate on here but he is a good guy in general, I think, he truly believes in what he knows about WCK and also shares his perspective.

You may hate him, hate what he says but I think he creates some food for thought, if nothing else for you.

But I could care less about the WCK forum, but just sayin

There’s an Australian pop singer called John Farnham who’s had about eight final concerts and will probably make yet another comeback in the near future, much to my serial disappointment.

After what Dave wrote to Hendrik, and in the interests of good taste, I’m not going to post one of his vids.

There are enough of Hendrik’s posts without the two deleted ones for the public to judge. This last smacks of prima donna-ism and that is not out of character.

In any case, I don’t agree with Vic’s banning but I will support my local moderator and respect his decisions.

[QUOTE=GlennR;1075854]As against Hendricks arrogance and condascending ways Joy?

You reap what you sow…[/QUOTE]

My point- Dave and Hendrik have made their decisions- why add anything more?
Back to chatting about wing chun…?

joy chaudhuri

I don’t agree with any of the sudden bannings made without warning (“hey stop that” is not a proper pre ban warning) nor the sudden and IMO arbitrary and radical 180 degree shift in what is and what is not acceptable around here… Politeness is one thing–judging content is censorship..

Meanwhile, trolls that have posted turds all over the forum for months/years got away without so much as a slap on the wrist…

The forum used to be more interesting, hard hitting, controversial, now it seems to be headed for yawn-city.

Decaf cappuccino with skim milk and Splenda anyone?

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My point- Dave and Hendrik have made their decisions- why add anything more?
Back to chatting about wing chun…?

joy chaudhuri[/QUOTE]

in hindsight youre right joy

I believe that Hendrik’s departure is a great loss to this Wing Chun forum.

IMHO, he has great Wing Chun knowledge that could have been beneficial for those (the majority) who practice Wing Chun in an incomplete manner (see the world famous Mcdojo phenomenon).

Anyway, I hope that Hendrik changes his mind and comes back to post here again.

Hello,

Hendrik, leaving or staying is his own choice. He is upset that I removed two of his posts, while allowing many others to remain. The two I removed were of songs and their performance. One was of a “girl band”(?) or some such. A bunch of girls dressed in short skirts singing in another language. I am sorry, but I fail to see that as being applicable to Wing Chun. The other was another song being performed.

Hendrik does have a great deal of knowledge which he could share. However, what good is such knowledge if one shares it in a way difficult for others? While it is all well and good to promote self exploration and discovery, there is no place for self promotion and the vague posts alluding to some special or secret knowledge without explanation, and then posting unrelated items are unwarranted.

He chose to post my reply, which was sent via PM in an attempt to what, make me feel bad??

In any event, I advised everyone that anything not related to WC or advancing the subject would be removed. As to banning, that was not only my decision and I actually asked Gene not to ban both T and Victor at first in order to give them a chance to change. As to warning prior to being banned, aside from visiting and holding hands, I feel they were warned before such action was taken.

I believe that this forum has gotten better, although there is still a long way to go, imho. No one here is any better than anyone else. This is a place to share ones art and help promote the art. It is not a place to advance any one person nor any one lineage or approach.

As always anyone wishing to discuss with me can do so via PM or email.

[QUOTE=Vajramusti;1075853]=============================================================

Scott- there is no need to be personal.

joy chaudhuri[/QUOTE]

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My point- Dave and Hendrik have made their decisions- why add anything more?
Back to chatting about wing chun…?

joy chaudhuri[/QUOTE]

Come on joy!!! You know as well as I do the Hendrik is NOT going anywhere. He needs his sycophants! He will sulk for a little while and then come back with a vengeance having learned nothing from the kindness of strangers who tried to point out that the spinning robotic rainbow-mind fantasyland he perceves others are living in originates from his own spinning robotic rainbow-mind!

He will be back in no time condescending to us all, except his sycophants of course, whom he will gently stroke like a pet dog. And the game will be afoot once again! :smiley:

Don’t worry, be happy! :wink:

Oh yeah! Just to stay on the forum topic: Wing Chun Forever!

Well, I’m shocked that Hendrik has taken his posts deletion as a sign to throw in the towel. Especially when I thought that some progress was being made.

As I’ve always said, “each to their own”.

FYI, Dave is consistent in removing posts from the WC forum that don’t have anything to do with WC.
He removed posts in which I posted a pic of my Dog and John ( Youknowho) posted a link to his dog ( same breed) in one of the WC threads.
Hendrick knows this and anyone else that is on the WC forum knows this if they pay any attention BEYOND what they wrote for themselves and Hendrick does just that, he writes because he likes to “hear himself talk”.

The fact that Dave offered to discuss it with groin ache, er I mean Hendrick via PM and Hendrick choose to do this publicly just means that he is a drama queen.

And that is all WC needs, more drama queens.

[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;1075895]

Oh yeah! Just to stay on the forum topic: Wing Chun Forever![/QUOTE]

Is that really staying on the forum topic? I don’t think so.


Hardwork- Hendrik took himself out.

Dave has a difficult task and he is volunteering. One can cherry pick decisions… but a moderator’s role includes careful decisions to keep conversations on wing chun going.IMO- Best to move on.

joy chaudhuri

[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1075907]And that is all WC needs, more drama queens.[/QUOTE]

Indeed :rolleyes: :D:D:D

Here is my answer to Dave to make a final conclusion and departure.

1, Cant Dave put back both of them as it is to let the world see what it is?

and let the world see what is going on?

2, To the world, I post two posts,

A,

the first post is a kung fu classical writing on three level of Kung fu cultivation or three states in details decription. how different components comes together in the three states.

That clip is a clip of a funny popular common Taiwanese movie call " I love you for 10000 years". for those who is creative knows what I mean is " I love you for 10000 years" to the classical writing.

B,

the second post is I explain at ultimately there is no Fa and Hua Jin to KFF.
I use a clip on a extremely famous classical song Lee Xiang Lan sing by the God of cantonese POP song Cheong Hok Yau. That is to pointing to at the advance level, hua or fa turn into one as a good song which catches others heart.

I careless if the clip were delete or even both post got deleted.

What I dont like is Dave is obviously using his power to put down me and fault finding, looking at his post, why does him attack me personally ? Look at the pm he send it to me. What is that got to do with the content of the posts?

3, I have been here for decades and how much concept I have brought into this forum? how much resistance to face to brought the White Crane and Hua Jin… stuff in for everyone?

I know the path to doing expose new concepts or facts are not an easy one. and will take blame but what the heck if one really wants to share. and no one can please everyone in the world. and I never say I am perfect. So, do I dont expect anyone to be perfect.

4, I expect moderator will focus on the subject and content of the post instead of start with a bias towards the poster and then use any reason to shoot the poster.

I totally understood Dave’s job is difficult and he could have pm me asking me to explain what it is and work from there.

But instead he post a PM starting with

You have a tendency to try and pose in a superior position to others.

that is getting personal and nothing have to do with the content of the posts he has deleted.

Am I perfect? NO. but I dont like to take accusation for things I didnt do.

Saying the above, Dave might have a few bad days and triggle all these. That I also can understand and let go.

[QUOTE=Sihing73;1075894]Hello,

Hendrik, leaving or staying is his own choice. He is upset that I removed two of his posts, while allowing many others to remain. The two I removed were of songs and their performance. One was of a “girl band”(?) or some such. A bunch of girls dressed in short skirts singing in another language. I am sorry, but I fail to see that as being applicable to Wing Chun. The other was another song being performed.

Hendrik does have a great deal of knowledge which he could share. However, what good is such knowledge if one shares it in a way difficult for others? While it is all well and good to promote self exploration and discovery, there is no place for self promotion and the vague posts alluding to some special or secret knowledge without explanation, and then posting unrelated items are unwarranted.

He chose to post my reply, which was sent via PM in an attempt to what, make me feel bad??

In any event, I advised everyone that anything not related to WC or advancing the subject would be removed. As to banning, that was not only my decision and I actually asked Gene not to ban both T and Victor at first in order to give them a chance to change. As to warning prior to being banned, aside from visiting and holding hands, I feel they were warned before such action was taken.

I believe that this forum has gotten better, although there is still a long way to go, imho. No one here is any better than anyone else. This is a place to share ones art and help promote the art. It is not a place to advance any one person nor any one lineage or approach.

As always anyone wishing to discuss with me can do so via PM or email.[/QUOTE]

How many Last Posts are you going to make ???