All I know is what I’ve heard and that site explains what I’ve heard over the years… along with the fact (right?) that the bout was initially supposed to be a work/prorasslin match
I have seen some video online and it looked like Inoki gave some decent kicks. Rules from that site: “Note: kicks regularly used in pro-wrestling are prohibited. However, when the wrestler’s knees are on the ground or squatting down, he can use foot or legs to kick the opponent’s legs”
Originally posted by Ford Prefect
[B]Truewrestler,
Not saying that what you posted is entirely incorrect, but please note that the site that little blurb is from is Japanese Pro-wrestling fan site where Inoki is a god.
Inoki couldn’t lift and slam Ali but he could trip from the clinch. I’ve seen a lot of this fight (i didn’t see the whole thing because it was impossible to remain interesting since it was so very boring), and Inoki basically just lied on his back from start to finish. It was a sham. [/B]
I seen that Inoki/Ali “fight” It was a shame even if it was only an exibition match.
Inoki was on his back all the times and Ali was surely wondering what it was about!
Inoki is now Pride’s official clown!..The one all bow before.. He is very good in his role because he certainly believes in himself a lot!..Looks like his ego is as big as his jaw!
i’ve heard of this fight but never saw it…i’m at work now so i can’t watch any mpegs, but in this instance, does ‘crab position’ = Fred Ettish ‘Fetal Fighting’ position?:eek:
Originally posted by Abstract i’ve heard of this fight but never saw it…i’m at work now so i can’t watch any mpegs, but in this instance, does ‘crab position’ = Fred Ettish ‘Fetal Fighting’ position?:eek:
ummmm…no, it means crab position (sitting on butt with one or both hands supporting you from behind)
Really? I could have sworn Inoki was barred from picking up Ali off the ground and slamming him. You are right. It was a work in it’s original inception. I think Gene Lebelle was the ref in that fight too. heh!
Anyways… regardless, I think we can only come to one conclusion: under modern MMA rules Inoki would have won the fight easily
Think what you will, but a couple solid punches from Ali could change that quick. It is one of those things to kind of look at, shrug your shoulders, and realize it was all about publicity.
lol, you on crack? Even with the crazy rules Inoki got Ali to the ground and went for a leg/foot lock but Ali grabbed the ropes which forced the fight to be stood up in the center.
Striker versus Grappler = Grappler wins 99% of the time
Just wanted to thank everyone for the great information. I really learned a lot. I guess God gave me two ears, two eyes, and one mouth so I could spend four times as much time taking things in rather than spouting them out.
Old thread I know, but someone said that Antonio Inoki is half-Brazilian. WRONG. He was originally from a well-off family in Yokohama that fell on hard times and emigrated to Brazil (as did many Japanese families) when he was young. What does “half-Brazilian” even mean, anyway? That’s like saying “half-American”.
I would rate the 1963 Gene LeBell/Milo Savage fight much higher than the Ali/Inoki “fight” in terms of inspiring “mixed martial arts fights” (in the U.S.). I did hear that after the Inoki match, Ali suffered hematomas in his legs from getting kicked there.
Antonio Inoki won that fight even without allowing grappling. don’t think that was a fixed fight, those kicks looked real and didn’t look choreographed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5UdMnyms5E
Yep, I still remember having watched the video clip on local TV news. Unless there is proof shown, I will not say the fight was fixed. But it was a poor match. The rules of the fight largely dictated its outcome - boxer not allowed to use ground techniques, and the wrestler stays on the ground most of the times.
There was no victor declared. Inoki did not try to take the fight to Ali. If he had done so, things could have been much different. Karl Gotch was in Inoki’s corner and was pretty annoyed at Inoki’s tactics. It is my opinion that Karl Gotch could have fought both men that evening and ruled. THAT would have been worth seeing.
Even with the crazy rules Inoki got Ali to the ground and went for a leg/foot lock but Ali grabbed the ropes which forced the fight to be stood up in the center.