I guess I should watch that show some more. The 2 episodes I caught were just so annoying like the girl who came in last in the challenge and last in the fight was like 3rd place overall …
And then the sparring the women kept complaining about excessive contact. They reminded me of the women black belts at this karate place I went to, except if I had hit those women that hard in sparring I probably would have been kicked out of the school.
And then there’s Ernie Reyes … he has such a big attitude for such a little guy …
But the thing is, by the hits these people do by accident, you can tell a lot of them have a lot of experience sparring and are actually pretty good, so it sucks because it seems the competition doesn’t favor their actual skill level.
Yeah, my ex-wife would have been badmouthing those girls like crazy, especially since they were Red Dragon :p. She was kind of hardcore though (won lots of competitions and liked to spar and such (she wouldn’t have lasted on that show though, since she mainly liked to throw kicks to the face)).
The only problem sparring so light like that is that after doing a lot of that, somebody comes with hard contact and you aren’t really ready.
I had that happen – we were sparring a lot with light contact, and then when I had to spar harder contact I got taken out by this black belt from Germany who hit really hard. I just wasn’t ready or used to getting hit that hard.
I don’t think lower contact and point sparring helps anybody.
Yeah, the semi-contact point fighting they’re doing trivializes the skills of the competitors. Most of them are pulling their kicks and punches, or just throwing light ones for the points. It’d be better if they just went to knock out and scored points for the winner (full contact everything non-lethal goes :D).
I’d hate to see how some of these people would fare if the rules were different. Some of the more proficient fighters would still be around though.
EXACTLY, light contact point sparring teaches bad habits: pulling punches, aversion to full contact, avoiding head shots, etc. It’s bad preparation for the street.
neil the point thing on that show is a little screwy but you have to watch the whole week to understand the points. beginning of each show the 2 lowest scoring contestants fight each other so they end up with like another 40-60 points usually. this almost always puts them near the top and then they do a challenge and they contestants get points from that and the lowest scores from the challenge fight and the points readjust. usually by the end of an episode the last place people went from last to top 4 then back down to the middle or bottom. the interesting thing is that it seems like if you are ahead the whole week and then blow it the last day you can lose. but on fridays they have 3 fights and let the bottom ppl just fight it out to see who ends up in the top 4. screwy.
Tai kwan dorcc that has to sum up the entire show. It is nothing like what I expected to see either and the fact that one of the competitors is complaining that the competition is bogus is finally a moment of truth about it. And yes the show should be called the final do but since fu means man I guess it is no matter that it is chinese. Just a great shame that there is very little chinese martial representation.
I enjoyed watching their attempts at the horse stance. why were they acting like they never heard of the horse stance??! Isn’t that a basic kungfu exercise? most black belts I know can hold that position for long periods of time without breaking a sweat, but the final fu idiots struggled with two minutes. and these people are suppose to be world champs.
how many tae kwan do schools you know practice the deep horse stance?
for not ever practicing it, they didnt do too bad form the sound of it.
its mtv they jsut cater to what people want. you all see the gymnastics challenge where they were all jumping around and flipping and ****. i was like wtf… xma gay.
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by no way am i defending this show. i fvcking hate it
as for the coce’d up catfight in a pit of nacho cheese sauce, bring it ON BABY!!! id pay ppv for that ****.
first off it isnt point sparring, because they dont stop after getting hit like in those old karate tourneys they kep going so its full contact. And secondly hitting to the head is also illegal in kyoukishin and almost any karate style. Watch that movie fighting black kings where thos ekung fu guys get killed by them.
lol you dont even have enough control to hit someone below the head you have no skill, thats like saying oh if I fought in the ufc I would just use my dim mak and kill them casue when the fists start flying I cant help myself.
Full contact? You’re an idiot. Ever hear of “continuous point sparring.” There is nothing full contact about final fu.
As far as your comments about boxing. Strike two. Nobody goes 10 rounds boxing and is not hurt. They maybe don’t show it during the match because of adrenaline and whatnot, but those guys are like walking bruises for the next several days. The difference is that the final fu peeps, being so unused to any physical contact at all in their combat simulations are just gigantic p@ssies who treat minor contact as the end of the world.
there is no such thing as continuous pioint sparring. if its ocntinuous its not point sparring. Just because they dont hit hard doesnt mean they cant, or what you see on tv could be deceiving. How do you know they arent bruised up too afterwards? And most kung fu people are pussies btw that dont do anything regarding contact, and fight like nothing out of their style.
Isn’t that a basic kungfu exercise? most black belts I know can hold that position for long periods of time without breaking a sweat, but the final fu idiots struggled with two minutes. and these people are suppose to be world champs.