forms and this master…everything as far as I see is right on…(I know this is your sifu master or whatever ..but do not get P*ssed at me)
…except the continued collapsed back leg and ankle in some of his stances..it goes against human physiology ,proper body mechanics, structural alignment, and can cause major damage to the knee and ankle…
I have no idea why so many traditional practitioners are guilty of this … it can really ruin a performance…
The reason why I believe I have seen it so much is because people are trying too hard to sink the stance and lack the strength and flexability to do it with the ankle hip and shoulder in alignment.
I know many people will say it is part of tradition …but what part of tradition permits this obvious problem?? and if stances are the root of Kung Fu then how can this be a strong stance and how can any technique being executed from it have any power??
Great forms and performance overall…
This guy impressed me a long time ago and I have learned a great deal from just watching his performances…
[QUOTE=tattooedmonk;709332]forms and this master…everything as far as I see is right on…(I know this is your sifu master or whatever ..but do not get P*ssed at me)
…except the continued collapsed back leg and ankle in some of his stances..it goes against human physiology ,proper body mechanics, structural alignment, and can cause major damage to the knee and ankle…
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Can you describe what you mean by this in greater detail? Are you saying his back foot is turned too far outward or something? I’m not really sure what you’re describing here, but keep in mind that Zhou has been practicing since he was 6. Therefore, his joints are unusually limber and allow him to do things which would seemingly injure most people. For example, when he does a “pian-tui” (outward slanting kick you use to attack the opponent’s shin with the bottom of your foot), his foot turns out to the side almost until it is parallel with the floor, heel facing forward and the toes pointing to the side.
[QUOTE=onyomi;709352]Can you describe what you mean by this in greater detail? Are you saying his back foot is turned too far outward or something? I’m not really sure what you’re describing here, but keep in mind that Zhou has been practicing since he was 6. Therefore, his joints are unusually limber and allow him to do things which would seemingly injure most people. For example, when he does a “pian-tui” (outward slanting kick you use to attack the opponent’s shin with the bottom of your foot), his foot turns out to the side almost until it is parallel with the floor, heel facing forward and the toes pointing to the side.[/QUOTE] when he is doing his deep cat stance his ankle is rolled inward and his knee looks like it about to buckle toward the centerline, sagital plain, or medially…
his hip, ankle ,and shoulder are not in alignment and this makes the whole structure unstable…
this based on modern understanding of human physiology and body mechanics.
…otherwise this guy blows me away with his skill!!!
Mizong-quan is the style Jet Li’s character in Fearless, Huo Yuanjia, practiced, but I don’t see Jet doing any of it in the movie. What he’s doing in that preview looks more like some freestyle Chen Taiji.
Ah, too bad. Saw the flick and it looked like standard movie-fu complete with wires and rediculous acrobatics. I hope this really is Jet Li’s last kungfu movie. With all the squawking about this and that giving kungfu a bad name, I think these movies do the most damage.
Of course I get all crotchety when I waste good money on a bad movie, so what do I know?
[QUOTE=Samurai Jack;710222]Ah, too bad. Saw the flick and it looked like standard movie-fu complete with wires and rediculous acrobatics. I hope this really is Jet Li’s last kungfu movie. With all the squawking about this and that giving kungfu a bad name, I think these movies do the most damage.
Of course I get all crotchety when I waste good money on a bad movie, so what do I know?
Negativity purged. Carry on.[/QUOTE]
I agree with Jack. I am tired of these types of movies. I like the old school ones better. They were a little more tame and used more real martial artists.
While watching this video, I realized that I saw this kind of flow and energy performed in another form before. It is in one of the ten forms of Ching Wu introduced by Chao Lien Ho (according to NorthernShaolin, these ten came from the Lost Track Style). The form that I am referring to is Kung Li Chuan. This form appears to take the power developed by Kung Li Chuan and trains the practitioner in directing it in various ways, developing skilled strength (from Kung Li chuan to “Su Li Chuan” (skilled/artful strength fist).
Did they cut the ten minute scene that takes place on top of the thirty foot high plum flower poles out of the movie you watched? You know, when Jet Li repeatedly defies the laws of gravity to leap from pole to pole, platform to platform? Does this look like anything you’ve EVER seen in your martial arts school?
Or what about the two American boxers who used straight up PRC Wushu?
Or how about the French Fencer who used PRC Wushu?
[QUOTE=Shaolin Master;612706]In Hebei there are 3 major variations of Yanqing/mizong quan.
Cangxian & Cangzhou (County/City), Qinghai and Tianjin.
Ours is from Cang county and thereby can only comment on it.
There are around 30 empty hand sets including the following:
Yan Qing Jia Zi
Yan Qing Quan
Pi Za Quan – Chopping Hammer Boxing
Lian Shou Quan (1) – Linking Hands Boxing
Lian Shou Quan (2) – Linking Hands Boxing
Lian Shou Quan (3) – Linking Hands Boxing
Mi Zong Yi - Lost Track Skill
Mian Zhang Quan -
Mi Zong Bao Quan – Lost Track Leopard Boxing
Xiao Wu Hu Quan – Small 5 Tigers
Da Wu Hu Quan – Great 5 Tigers
Xiao Jin Quan – Small Entering
Da Jin Quan – Great Entering
Ben Da – Charging Strikes
Mi Zong Kau - Lost Track Closing In
Mian Zheng Quan - Cotton Strikes
Wu Song Quan – Hero Wu Song’s Boxing
Hong Yan Quan - Red Swallow Boxing
Si Men Quan - 4 Gates Boxing
There are also 14 Combat (Dui Lian) sets.
Also around 30 or so weapon sets (Inluding 6 sets of Qingping jian(Sword).
Uncle Chen Fengqi is our grandmaster’s son.
Kind Regards
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I know some of these forms. I Learn from Lu JunHai
