hi,
I was hoping someone would be able to tell me some of the differences between the mainland lineages of wing chun and the hong kong lineages.
just curious,
thanks,
jason
I believe the non-Hongkong lineages are mainly in Fatshan and Gwongdong (Canton), and that they don’t really differ that much from Hongkong. In the more northern part WC is relatively unknown, I think. I read somewhere (this board? ) that they had never heard of WC in Shanghai.
Fut Sao Wing Chun
Fut Sao Wing Chun is different from Hong Kong Wing chun. Tork body, footworks, Hei kung, two man forms and much more. www.buddhapalm.com
mainland china wing chun
Hi Jason,
Where about in MTL are you?
There are quite a few different lineages of Wing Chun in Mainland China (although many of them have also been available in HK and elsewhere since the 60s, and some even before that). In China, Wing Chun is almost exclusively found along the once-route of the Red Junk Opera, from Zhaoqing (Siu Hing), through Foshan (Fatsaan), and Guangzhou (Kwangchow, Canton), and surrounding areas like Panyu (Poon Yee), Shunde (Sum Dak), Huayuan (Fa Yuen), Gulao (Koo Lo), and Shenzhen (Sum Jan).
Yip Man Wing Chun is found in Foshan still, through Yip’s early students Kwok Fu and Lun Gai, and is fairly similar to Yip Man’s Hong Kong students (though both Foshan and HK Yip Man systems developed their own uniqueness after 1940). It is probably most similar to Leung Sheung’s HK system, as is most of Mainland WC.
I have brief write ups for many branches at http://www.wingchunkuen.com/archives/systems but can provide more specifics if you like without wasting too much space.
Rgds,
Rene Ritchie
Jason8
Do you train under Lorne Bernard? I will be visiting Montreal next week, and was going to drop by.
Rene and Whipping Hand
Hi Rene,
Thank you for the informative response. I’ll be sure to check out the archives! Actually while I’ve got the chance, let me compliment you on the website, I’ve been reading through its material recently and I have enjoyed it very much. In response to your query, I live in Dollard, how about yourself??
thanks again,
jason
Whipping Hand> yes I am a student of Sifu Bernard. You ought to come by if you get the chance. I’ll keep an eye out for you next week,
jason
Jason
I live in Pierrefonds. Nice to know more West Islanders like WCK! Glad you enjoy the site, hopefully I’ll be able to squeeze some more time outta life to keep adding more.
Rgds,
Rene Ritchie
Jason8
I understand you have 2 locations. When are classes at each location? What times & days?
I will more than likely visit on one of the days.
Lorne, probably doesn’t know that I’m coming, yet. But he may know by that time.
Whipping Hand
Here’s a link to the class schedule and the addresses of both the Montreal (which I train at)and the Laval schools. Hope you can make it.
take care,
jason
Rene
Silly question (seeing your handle) but are you the same Rene Ritchie as in the Yuen Kay San Book?
If so, are you guys coming out with any other books about YKS WC? I really enjoyed the first one (and also Complete WC) and although I am not a WC boxer anymore, look forward to seeing more about the book.
What we do in life, echoes in eternity
–Maximus Decimus Meridius, General of the Army of the North, Commander of the Felix Legions
Main Land KF
Roots and Branches of Wing Tsun by Grandmaster Leung Ting is a very informative book which covers a lot of info on the mainland Wing Tsun and some styles that are very similar found in other countries. It is about 400 pages and well worth the money. I especially liked the way he gave the history of Wing Tsun. He gave several versions of the typical stories, then separated what could be proven and what was reasonable for that period in history, and gave what his theory is, and basically leaves it up to you to decide. You can tell after reading it the amount of research that went into it and you really come to appreciate the intelligence of this man and how much time and effort he has put into Wing Tsun. I’ll stop now as I’ll never be able to say enough to tell how impressive this book is.
Just my 4 cents!!
And the link is…
mainland wing chun
anyone of you that thinks mainland wing chun and hong kong wing chun are simmular, then you must have learn most of the arts by books. Anyone who knows anything about wing chun, knows that ip man changed the art when he moved to hong kong.
the mainland style of wing chun is more smoother and more deadly. however, hong kong styles is much easier to learn.
so i’m driving home this evening and i realize that i’m a spaz
here’s the link, sorry about that:
http://www.aei.ca/~straycat/kungfu/sch-add.html
jason
“the mainland style of wing chun is more smoother and more deadly.”
I left a milkshake out in the sun for a couple of days once. It was even more smooth and deadly than mainland WC.
lotus kick
Please explain why you think “mainland style of WC is more smoother and more deadly” - inquiring minds want to know.
Rene Ritchie - welcome! 
My Sihing, Marcus has only good things to say about you.
mun hug
the mainland china WC forms are in one countinus flow. There is no “step one, step two, step three…” drills. when techneques are in a free flow motion, there are more energy, since there is nothing helding it back.
Basically, mainland WC use the entire body all the time, and every time.
lotus kick
you are confusing a teaching method with application.I have seen mainland schools teach the same way.
Hi Lotus Kick,
Are you a student of Lo sifu or Chow sifu by any chance?
Anyway, in my experience, mainland branches vary considerably as to why, but in general they do seem to retain more obvious/apprarent circles/curves in their movements.
Rgds,
RR