Louhan List?

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Anybody have a list of all louhan forms?

would be much appreciated!!!

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I know of Da Luohan, Xiao Luohan, and one called “Short Luohan”. (Shaolin Temple lineage) I’ve seen these three, but I’ve heard rumors of a longer 108 version of Luohan. If anybody has any info on the short luohan or the 108 version, and would be willing to share, I’d really appreciate it. Thank you.

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bodhitree,

Man, this is like asking to list all shaolin sets. Even then it will never be complete.

Let me start but I’m not going to include Mi Tsung Lo han.

  1. Lo han 18 Hands: text Shaolin Si Quan Bang Chunzong by Tsai Lung Yun, 1982 (includes solo set and a two man sparring set)

  2. Shaolin Lo Han Chuan by Chang, 1987, (Contains Small Lo Han Fist)

  3. Shaolin Wu Shu, 1989, by Luen Hing Printing Factory, HK. (Contains various sets which one is a Lo Han Fist set.)

  4. Shaolin Lo han 18 Palms as found in Cyberkwoon.com. There is a text but I do not have it.

  5. Shaolin Lo Han 18 Hands Rows 1 thru 8. Written by a monk, 1998. Contains 8 sets plus set listed in #7 below plus set listed in #1 above.
    Also found in Cyberkwoon.com and in text. (Sets are very short)

  6. Lo Han Enroll and Strike Fist. Found in Cyberkwoon.com (Sparring set)

  7. Hushan Zimen Lo han Shiba Shou. (Lo Han 18 hands) by Tsung, printed in 1935.

  8. Shaolin Lo Han 108 hand techniques. Various authors, 1990, ISBN7-5349-0816-7

  9. Shaolin Lo Han Chuan, 1986. Contains Big Lo Han, Small Lo Han, and Enroll and Strike Fist (see #6 above).

Most of the above sets can be found in the larger 2 volume text: Zhongguo Shaolin Wu Shu Daquan, 1990, ISBN7-81003-401-4.

  1. Shaolin Fist, by Shiu Hon Sang, 1985. Contains Shaolin Lo Han Nian Shou Fist (Sparring Set)

  2. Shaolin Fist, 1984. Same set as in #10. Part English and part Chinese.

  3. Shaolin Lo Han Chuan, Row One. Written by the 31st generation Monk, No Date listed, ISBN 962-7123-12-9 (Contains one set)

  4. Shaolin Lo Han Kung Fu by D. Draeger, 1979, ISBN 0-8048-1698-0 (Contains one set-Southern) Only English Text.

With the exception of #11 and 13, all other documentations are in Chinese.

Undocument sets:

From Sun Yu Fung’s Lineage: Lo Han Numbers 1 thru 108.
Also 10 revisied Lo han sets (1940’s) distilled from the 108 sets from same lineage:

  1. Practice Hands
  2. Practice Steps
  3. Leopard Fist
  4. Elephant Fist
  5. 12 step fist
  6. Snake Fist
  7. Blocking Kick Fist
  8. Tiger Fist
  9. Rowing Continious Fist
  10. Ghost Fist
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SYF Lohan

Dear Northern Shaolin,
You know I must be lurking on this thread :-)))) It wont take long for me to get on this bandwagon.

The list of SYF’s Lohan Fist intrigues me.

Ghost Fist sounds very interesting. Do you know the Chinese character by any chance for (this word) Ghost ? Is it “Gwei” ? or “Mor” perhaps.

Cheers

Buddhapalm

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Buddhapalm,

Sorry, but I do not remember the Chinese Character. Going to take me awhile to locate the original article.

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Northern Shaolin:
thanks for the reply, Do you have the Chinese names for the 10 revised Louhan sets? Thanks

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Sorry but I do not.

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Don’t know if it’s possible to bring a 11 year old thread back to life, but I have no idea where else to put this.
Found an 18 hands routine I’ve never seen before, so I’ll just link it. Apparently from Shi Degen lineage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shE_ki1ySGA&list=UUFYMr_4z5ZwKYZP5QxdWSeg

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came for some other posts, but saw this thread. this was better be asked in the “Luohan qaun” thread. this ‘Luohan quan’ thread hosts comprehensive discussions, but also naturally there’s widespread errors and confusion throughout the thread, which get gradually corrected page-by-page along with the discussions. so be careful with it, either don’t read it or read it to the end, else you’ll get confused.

instead of reading that long thread, i’d recommend Wikipedia, which gathers most corrected general level of information about Luohan styles and the related resources: Luohan (martial arts) - Wikipedia.

altogether, there are many luohan styles. some are really based on the character of Luohan(s), as the most important Buddhist icon(s), some just use the name. the original style is from Shaolin temple, and there are uncountable other styles from outside of Shaolin. the name may, however, be confusing. you may see many mean styles named Shaolin luohan quan or luohan 18 hands, without having any relation to neither Shaolin nor the luohan(s). just the name. since both the names ‘Shaolin’ and ‘luohan’ have become brands and many people use them for their schools, related or unrelated. so, that’s why we say ‘it’s almost impossible to count all the luohan styles.’

@DAW: this form in your link is quite known, it’s a famous Shaolin luohan 18 hands form. see its description and more videos of it here: Luohan quan (read luohan 18 hands, form 8, this is it.)

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[QUOTE=DAW;1278357]Don’t know if it’s possible to bring a 11 year old thread back to life, but I have no idea where else to put this.
Found an 18 hands routine I’ve never seen before, so I’ll just link it. Apparently from Shi Degen lineage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shE_ki1ySGA&list=UUFYMr_4z5ZwKYZP5QxdWSeg[/QUOTE]

I also just mentioned this one in particular in this thread: http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?68196-Hua-Quan-Questions-Regarding-Luo-Han-Shi-Ba-Shou-and-Ba-Bu-Lian-Huan-Quan/page2

Basically, the only thing “Luohan” about it are the last two postures tacked onto the end. The rest of it is apparently the Xiyuan version of a set called Xiaosihui in the Nanyuan Tongbeiquan system, Shi Zhenxu lineage, and called “Luohan Shiba Shou” because it has 18 postures, though not actually a Luohan style.

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[QUOTE=freedom76;346655]I know of Da Luohan, Xiao Luohan, and one called “Short Luohan”. (Shaolin Temple lineage) I’ve seen these three, but I’ve heard rumors of a longer 108 version of Luohan. If anybody has any info on the short luohan or the 108 version, and would be willing to share, I’d really appreciate it. Thank you.[/QUOTE]
of ‘short luohan’ you most likely mean ‘luohan duan da (luohan close combat).’ if so, luohan duan da, if you see the videos in youtube, is an extraction of big Luohan quan. it’s not any separate style by itself.

the 108 posture luohan quan is ambiguous. first, there is luohan 108 sanda methods, which is a set of 108 combat techniques, it’s not a form, just a set of 108 techniques. then, there’s supposedly a bigger luohan quan. the big Luohan quan we mostly see has about 36 postures. this is also considered to be 2 parts. then there’s another part of it that we can see, i.e., we know a big luohan quan with 3 parts, each part has about 18 postures, so 54 postures. it’s said that Shaolin big luohan quan has 6 parts, so there’s 3 more parts out there that we haven’t seen yet. altogether, Shaolin big luohan quan is said to have 6x18=108 postures. of these, we only know 54 postures or so.